• @[email protected]
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    92 years ago

    They’ve been offering $19-$22 an hour starting pay at at least one McDonald’s in Sunnyvale, CA. I don’t understand how $20 is unsustainable given CA prices.

  • @[email protected]
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    Paying your employees a livable wage is your first priority as a business owner. You always make payroll, no matter what.

    If you can’t find a way to reconcile infinite growth as a company against your employees’ requirement to feed and house themselves, you’re a garbage business owner and should just step down.

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      I mean… McDonald’s corporation doesn’t sell hamburgers, or employ the workers. The franchisees do that. McDonald’s corporate pays their workers extremely well, but they are property managers. McDonald’s is a landlord that happens to rent exclusively to one type of business. They are probably correct that their own franchisees cannot afford rent, but that’s a whole different can of worms.

      • Echo Dot
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        22 years ago

        Perhaps everyone should just do what happened in Russia and just get rid of the franchise and carry on basically being the same business but without the trademarking.

        Hell, I wouldn’t mind a little more variety in the menus.

  • @[email protected]
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    262 years ago

    They always say that like it’s anyone’s problem but their own. Figure out how to make your business model adapt to changing circumstances or die out, either way this is a problem for McDonald’s to worry about internally, not for society to worry about on their behalf.

  • @[email protected]
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    612 years ago

    Anytime a corporation says something like this what they’re really saying is “It would inconvenience our executives and shareholders.”

    • @[email protected]
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      142 years ago

      “If I’m only able to buy two new yachts this year, and the CEO next door buys three, then that simply isn’t a sustainable business model”

  • BeautifulMind ♾️
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    352 years ago

    Translation: “We have decided that when given the choice between paying our workers a living wage and paying our executives lavishly, we pick the latter and think you are too dumb to notice”

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      That might be true, but people have to stop working there as employee demand dictates pay rates. Everyone saw this during the pandemic. Short supply of workers lead to an immediate raise in pay.

      You also have to remember McDonald’s is a franchise business and the owner might not be taking in millions, as McDonald’s has been known to mistreat franchisees from lower income neighborhoods.

      https://news.yahoo.com/mcdonalds-defeats-black-franchisees-1-134243905.html

      https://www.eatthis.com/news-subway-mcdonalds-and-more-are-expected-to-be-investigated-by-the-ftc/

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        I mean I understand, but honestly I think if they can’t survive in the area they should just close shop. If it was too much of a bother corporate would subsidize but, this would also allow for more local alternatives to potentially appear. We don’t have a mcdonalds for a solid 40 mins from where I live, or any corporate/franchise chain, and the ma/pa food places are a nice change compared to going into more populated towns

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          12 years ago

          I mean I understand, but honestly I think if they can’t survive in the area they should just close shop.

          Understood, but the point I’m trying to make is that these franchisees are small businesses. They can’t access the billion dollar capital that McDonald’s corporate has.

          You have to treat franchisees as small businesses, because besides the name, they pretty much are.

    • Nougat
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      Most McDonald’s stores are privately owned franchises. If corporate is crafting their franchise agreements such that private store owners are not able to pay a living wage to employees, then corporate is to blame.

      But private owners are the ones who ultimately set wages. Franchisees need to bear some responsibility here, too. They’re the ones who are in a position to pressure corporate for franchise agreements which give them a better opportunity to offer living wages, and they’re not.

  • @[email protected]
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    Then change the business model or fail.

    One could easily imagine a business that only works if they pay employees 50 cents a day. Such a business has no place in a society that respects human dignity.

    If your business depends on purchasing a third of someone’s waking hours but cannot afford to pay them enough to live securely and comfortably in exchange, then your “business model” depends on poverty to continue.

    • circuitfarmer
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      This is exactly the thing.

      If a business cannot afford to pay its employees a living wage, that business is insolvent. What we have currently are a bunch of insolvent businesses that think they aren’t insolvent because they’ve been allowed to pay poverty wages.

      • dumdum666
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        102 years ago

        Yeah right … it is of course way easier and cheaper to build a hightech food factory in almost every town that is able to create at least a dozen of different dishes than paying the employees 20$ per hour. The technicians that repair those robots will of course also work for less than 20$. /s

    • alienzx
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      32 years ago

      Registered nurses in India make like $100/month

      • dumdum666
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        52 years ago

        I don‘t know what the going rate for registered nurses in the US is - but you probably will at least get 20$…

        • SpringMango
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          I want to say the going rate is around $40/hour for registered nurses but I’m sure it varies depending on city/state in the US.

          • Yuvneas
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            It’s super variable. Travel nurses in OB at my hospital were making $225 an hour. This was in rural CA where the average nurse made low $100k a year though. Some in red states are still in the $50k range though.

      • Chetzemoka
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        112 years ago

        And they can buy a decent restaurant meal for around $3. I’m not sure what you think your point is here.

      • Neuromancer
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        442 years ago

        So does Walmart.

        Minimum wage should pay enough to live a minimum life. It doesn’t. Not even close

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          Walmart is especially egregious because the SNAP benefits that subsidize their employees’ wages are often being used at Walmart. After all, if you need groceries why not pick them up at the store you work at after your shift?

          So not only do they not pay their workers enough by letting taxpayers subsidize wages, some of that taxpayer subsidy goes right into their pockets.

      • Phoenixz
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        92 years ago

        Sort of funny that a food company doesn’t pay you enough to buy food so tells you to buy food stamps…

      • @[email protected]
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        252 years ago

        Oh, I just realized what needs to be done. You know how many states come after the families of people who died on Medicaid to get the money back, seizing inheritance and assets? How about instead of that, they start charging businesses for employees being on government assistance? Just straight fine them for every employee who has to be on food stamps, cash assistance, or Medicaid. Idk, 10k/employee/year sounds about right. Then paying them all +9k/year becomes the cheaper option.

      • @[email protected]
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        162 years ago

        Kind of like using tips to fill in for low wages, but with taking advantage of government help.

      • elouboub
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        This is basically a subsidy for McDonalds. If the only way a company can be rich is by subsidies, maybe it shouldn’t exist in the “free market”.