Godot is free and open source Steam is not. Learn the difference. Steam is just as Unity if not worst.
Why would Steam be worse than Unity? You are mixing things together. Steam Hosts FOSS for free as far as I know - how is this a bad thing in your eyes?
https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/steam
Unity is a game engine, Steam is some bullshit market place that locks other software behind all sort of junk like drm. As far as i know Unity doesn’t promote gambling to kids
Well… don’t use Steam then.
As far as i know Unity doesn’t promote gambling to kids
Install some freemium game that’s using Unity ads and be prepared to get inundated by gambling ads
Install some freemium game that’s using Unity
No thanks i only play libre games
I feel like that’s not how you measure a game engine usage, the large majority probably don’t install Godot via Steam, just looking at the numbers it’s a very small sample which might not represent game devs in general
Can confirm. I use Godot and didn’t even know it was on steam
It might mean something though, FFXIV is a classic example of a game that almost nobody plays on Steam, but its Steam charts line up somewhat well with the game’s increasing popularity especially with Shadowbringers and Endwalker. Of course you have to look at actual data to back that up, but soemtimes it can show trends.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sampling_(statistics)
A doubling of usage amongst steam users is probably representative of a large uptake of Godot overall
Eh, I feel like the sampling is clearly biased toward those who would install a game engine through a service that auto-updates it. (Novices and hobbyists.)
And - thats exactly what that means…? An uptake in GODOT usage would mean novices and newbies are trying it out. Every new user is a newbie.
Sure but it doesn’t really reflect the studios switching to Godot. I think they are likely switching to unreal.
Of course it doesn’t, it’s a number that days how many people are running the app, that’s it.
Yup just pointing that out because some folks aren’t seeing that. Not everything is an argument.
For sure an uptick, but who knows by how much? I agree this is useful for showing something, but it’s hard to know what really from this alone.
I imagine, Godot doesn’t collect usage data on its own. So, this is likely the best data there is…
Awesome- hopefully more money will get put into the development fund as well. It is rather small yet.
I forget who and I’m too lazy to search, but a company just announced a recurring $10,000/month donation to Godot. A few others are donating too. So they do have some monetary support!
👍 thanks
TIL Godot is on Steam. Huh, will you look at that.
What does that even mean? People using gui tools?
Professional game developers do not want their game engines to automatically update because when you upgrade engine versions things usually break. This happens in Unity, Godot, Unreal, and every other engine or framework I’ve seen in games. For big changes, this is inevitable. So professional game developers download the engine directly from the provider and not a service that will automatically update the engine version from under your project.
I don’t even know why Godot is on steam. Probably to gain more discoverability and popularity.
Iirc godot uses beta branches and semver, so the only updates you get are the ones that dont break anything.
Because if you want professional game developers to exist then you have to be welcoming to them when they are just aspiring game developers. Kids who play lots of games and want to have a fiddle around with tools for making games are much more likely to do so if there is a way to access them that they are familiar with and already associate with gaming.
While this is true, I feel a loss for the familiarity of going to a website, downloading an executable, and running it without worry. I still do that with most of my software. In fact, that’s how I got steam.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that because there is an option to install via Steam that people should stop downloading directly from Godot’s website though. Both of those things can exist beside one another.
Sure. Like I said originally, it’s there for discoverability and popularity.
godot doesn’t break stuff in minor releases, and steam version of Godot has separate release tracks for each version (you can switch between godot 3 and 4)
I’ve had godot break or change stuff in minor releases.
Yeah there’s a couple tools like that on steam. Blender is on it too.
Krita, ShareX, Open Canvas is also on Steam.
I just wish you could disable steam features such as overlay or time counting etc, so that you can just use steam as a dumb updater for the program.
What’s GODOT?
It’s an open source game engine. People tend to consider it as a replacement for Unity when it come to 2D game development.
Ironically enough, people are waiting for Godot even though it has been here for a while.
I got that reference.
For indie game development in general as of Godot 4.
hey it’s 3d is pretty decent too!
you won’t be making aaa games with it anytime soon but it’s really good for 99% of tasksOut of interest, why do you say that it may not be good for AAA games?
Unity has been the king of portability for a while now. Godot is focused on the PC market.
godot runs everywhere, webgl, webgpu, android, ios, linux, macos, windows, gaem consoles
I mean, it’s easier to port a game running on Godot than something written in Assembly. So I’m not shocked to hear that
But up until Unity decided to stick some TNT up their ass and light it last week, the king of porting was Unity. I’m not saying it’s perfect, but if you’re a tiny indie company who wants to get something on Xbox, PS5, the Switch, PC, and even maybe mobile if the game is tiny, Unity was the engine for you.
To be fair, the only reason Godot can’t port to consoles as easily as Unity is for licensing reasons. Console manufacturers don’t want their console build code released as open-source under MIT like Godot is, so that’s all relegated to third-party services/plugins
My understanding is that running on game consoles can’t be officially supported, because they can’t integrate the necessary proprietary code into the engine while keeping it open source.
yeah plugins are needed, but the engine core is extremely portable
They can’t distribute the proprietary bits in with the engine, so you have to work with the Godot team and a publisher which you probably would be doing anyway.
Before Godot 4 the 3D engine was pretty far behind, think early 2010 teach. With Godot 4 it got an insane upgrade which puts it in par with Unity as far as I understand (not a unity expert), but still behind Unreal (then again, everything is behind Unreal.)
Unfortunately it takes multiple years for a 3D game to be developed, so it’ll be a while before we see actual released 3D games with Godot 4.
What exactly put it behind? Bad performance?
Not many tools supported out of the box. Its beauty comes in its modularity, so anyone could have always made an add-on - but that takes time and money, what most small devs don’t have (but Sega and Tesla could).
Then more recently the devs have had time, and so could make these first-party - and very recently much more stable long term funding, so I’d expect these tools to improve rapidly.
All that being said you could toss a 20 million polygon default cube in UE5 and it’d look/run pretty good
Sonic Colours Ultimate was made before Godot 4 was out but it doesn’t look bad at all.
The free, open source game engine everyone should have been using and contributing to this whole time but noooOOOooo.
Hahahaha ah ok then.
While the numbers themselves are just a small fraction of actual usage (as I guess most people using it don’t do it thru steam), it doubled in about a week.
What would be an “educated” guess of steam/non-steam users ratio? 1:50? 1:100?
I did not know Godot was on steam. Why would one prefer to use steam instead?
I’m assuming for automatic updates. Just like some people do with Blender.
Oh yeah for Windows and mac os that makes sense. The problem doesn’t exist om linux with package managers :3
winget install --id=GodotEngine.GodotEngine -emac has homebrew!
I’m all for Linux, I use it literally every day between my Steam Deck and remote dev machine at work, but updating software on Windows and MacOS isn’t hard, and I have no clue why the Linux crowd pretends it is. You could complain about forced updates on Windows, or MacOS having two different applications folders for Lord knows why, or literally anything else that is wrong with either of them, but ease of program updates isn’t a problem for Windows or MacOS.
Having a million different updater services instead of one is very annoying and even slows down boot
Well - you probably don’t have to download any updates yourself when using Steam.
paru -S godot
If you’re on Windows, it’s an easy way to auto-update. If you’re on Linux, there is no need for that.
Dang I’ve been manually updating this entire time… auto updates sounds appealing ngl
Just watch out for breaking changes
I use it on steam, for this exact purpose. So it shows in using it. The more people are using it, the more people get aware of it.
If all these people downloaded it directly and not from steam, this post wouldn’t exist :)
Auto updates is interesting, didn’t even consider it, but it can be both a pro and a con I guess…
I suppose it’s the easiest way to try it out.
I wouldn’t use it long-term, because you don’t want Godot to update without you knowing, if there’s something that needs to be changed due to an update. I bet a few people noticed the update from 3.x to 4.x…
I’ve read it also doesn’t come with the C# support, so that’s one reason not to use Steam for it if you’re interested in testing that side.
Does godot support 3D? If so does it support PBR materials? Does it support installing 3rd party plugins like HAVOK? Literately the only things i need.
It support 3D, but I think Vulkan is in Godot 4. I’m not sure how mature it’s. In Godot 3, it only support OpenGL.
What are some of the best-looking games in Godot?
Sonic Color Ultimate.
- Yes, not a great as Unity but it’s still pretty good especially after they switched to Vulkan over OpenGL. VR performance still could use some work though.
- Yes, PBR materials are fully supported. Actually one of the earlier things in 3D that was implemented, and then imoroved
- Yes, now I don’t know if HAVOK has a Godot plugin but there is a Jolt physics plugin that’s designed to be plug-and-play, with a few exceptions (it doesn’t suppory soft bodies afaik)
- Shaders are still GLSL or SPIR-V. Nothing changes in terms of quality.
yes
Tbh that’s a pretty horrible example. It was a rushed product full of graphical glitches, including rapidly flashing lights. This is true especially on the switch. Idk if it’s improved since launch but shit was rough early on.
Not sure why would you use HAVOK instead of Bullet, but yes
Already have experience with it mostly. It’s what I used and what I’m use to when it comes to physics engines
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… and I assume that’s just the instances installed through Steam.
yup, thats steamDB, I do wonder how many devs installed it via DL from the site or other ways
I had no idea you could even get it on Steam
My bud and I have it from a non steam source. So that’s 2 at least.
*usssage
Back in the USSSage…
You don’t how lucky you are… boy
Usssssausage. Mhm… tasty. :p
Godot wants to thank Unity Technologies for it’s generous support
The Humble Bundle sale is also helping.
For those interested: The Complete Godot Software Bundle
It supports Girls Who Code
What is Godot?
It’s a free and open source game engine a bit like Unity. https://godotengine.org/
I use it and I think it is quite nice.
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I can only hope this continues
Is there any reason to install it via steam and not just via the official site?
Maybe auto updates?
I don’t use the Steam version because it locks my steam library when I’m coding.
- edit: yeah, that update thing @[email protected] mentions too 😀
