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I basically quit Reddit cold turkey. Rather than watch the slow, sad decline of its communities by going along with Reddit management, I’d advocate them to make the transition to the Fediverse now rather than later. The /retrogaming/ community (I need to drop the /r/ for obvious reasons) did this and is doing quite well for itself on Lemmy and Mastodon.
If you could link to their lemmy so other retrogmaing lovers can sub and follow, that’d be amazing!
Let me get this straight.
People make content, bots up vote content that aligns with their objectives. People get paid for up votes.
So… People are working for bots now?
You’re working for the people who run the bots. Push the narrative and you’ll get paid.
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Again, the “Barbie” movie is the only allowed corporate interest on Lemmy, only in theaters July 21st.
I, for one, welcome our new bot overlords
I think you forgot a crucial step… Bots steal actual content, then direct other bots to down vote and report said original content, and then direct said bots to upvote the stolen content.
My decision to move here looks better the time goes by
Sorry who or what the fuck the Tech Times?
That will make them profitable for sure!
And we thought bots and karma farming were bad before.
Yeah, this new thing will be botted to hell lol.
Get gets us… Reddit gold?
More incentive to post low quality content
It is a race to the bottom. There is no way this turns out well.
Literal karma whore (although they say must be sfw)
Great post, 4 day old account /u/BroughtListless! Here’s $20!
Comments asking for upvotes and gold gonna be out of hand
“…and remember guys, if you liked this comment please UPVOTE and GILD!!!”
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Remember all those posts that sometimes will come up in r/relationship advice or subs like that portraying really vulnerable people that are really down on their luck (“Im a single mom/dad and have to do horrible things so that my children can eat” “Im an abused teen and can’t escape my home” “Im trying to escape a borderline cult” etc etc)?
Now, Im sure at least some of those were fake to begin with (I don’t have anything against those subs or those stories, but you can’t guarantee every single one of them is true). Now imagine if they could put a little edit in the end “thank you all, you are so kind, I managed to sign up into reddit’s content program, so if you want to help make sure to upvote and leave some gold, it means so much”.
In those subs, people were already helping out how they could (I would often see people offering to send food or stuff to OPs home, things like that)… so that’s not gonna backfire at all if its implemented.
Can you imagine the abuse of that?
I’m not an expert by any means but can’t this be used to launder money?
I don’t think money laundering would be worth it. I would expect Reddit to end up with the majority due to the pay out rate.
I was thinking a mix of theft and fraud. Use stolen credit cards to buy gold for bot/puppet accounts then post on your main account. If a post starts to take off, throw the bots at it to gild and add extra upvotes.
If someone was doing this, I would expect it to be a side hustle. Use the stolen credit cards early like this to test if they’re valid. Then use them for the main crime of buying goods to resell.
No, I don’t think so. How you would get the dirty money in the system? I’m assuming the content creators don’t have to give Reddit any money to get money back for their content.
Just spitballimg here, could be totally wrong as we’re not 100% sure how this is going to work:
Get 2 accounts
Link a prepaid card with dirty money to account 1.
Comment/post on account 2 (whichever pays more)
Gild account 2s activity repeatedly with account 1, use bots to upvote spam account 2.
Deposit payments from reddit into personal account. Now your money is washed
Omg that’s good! I wonder what the limit is on how much a single post or comment could earn. Like, say, you have $100,000 to wash - could that go to one post, or 100,000 posts? Does Reddit take any percentage of the earnings (not.sure if that was mentioned in the article)?
Why would they need that when they already have their dumbass NFTs?
Corruption usually comes from the top down. The real trickle down economics.
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I love this bot. Of all the bots this one is by far the coolest.
Faking popularity for profit. Ew.
Good Lord. This whole influencer/social media celebrity thing needs to die
Ok but first like and share my comment. Of course gold will also be appreciated!
Reddit must be super nervous and losing a lot of traffic. Burn baby, burn!
I feel like I got out just at the right time!
It’s such a shame that everything has to be commodifed. Being on lemmy, free of ads and financial incentives is such a breath of fresh air. Community and sharing ideas shouldn’t be driven by money.
I agree, but unfortunately it does cost money (way more than you think) to host something online, even a small Lemmy instance. The more traffic you have, the more it costs. The same goes for time spent on admin, which shouldn’t be free unless it’s a passion project.
You can say the same for lots of things though. I think if we want to take back control of discourse then we have to accept the cost.
An example from a world I understand - putting on and taking part in free parties (in the UK and the rest of Europe) has a financial and time cost. But people put on these incredible festivals not for financial gain, and not to even break even as there’s no charge to get in, but because they love music and community. Some things are more important than profit.
Aren’t Reddit moderators already volunteer admins? Still, Lemmy has the same issue as Reddit when considering server costs, if not worse. On Reddit, if a post brings in high volume of traffic, their server (farm?) needs to be strong to handle the influx. On Lemmy, the server instance can go down… theoretically. Not sure how much load a post can cause. But, compared to Reddit, Lemmy federated design means high load situations are suboptimal.
Sure, but the decentralized nature of the fediverse means that a single failure point is no longer enough to take the entire thing down.
They are, and yet they have limited control over the discourse as we’ve seen over the last month.
I get your points - I’m interested and excited to see how the Feddiverse grows and I hope it remains sustainable. I feel uncharacteristically positive about it.
Reddit has a harsher delineation between mods and admins compared to Lemmy. It seems common for Lemmy admins to mod some of their communities, while that is really rare on Reddit.
which is exactly why the fediverse is so good! you can host it yourself and shoulder the cost, join a free instance, donate something small… the cost is shared among many, which makes it far more acceptable for a lot of small passion projects
All it would take is one left-leaning billionaire to fund server costs for Lemmy instances with no strings attached, and we’d never have to worry about it being commodified. C’mon George Soros, where are you at? It would be pocket change for you.
So many far right billionaires putting so much money into their hateful, bigoted causes, while progressive causes seem to die on the vine due to lack of funding.
Problem is, you don’t become a billionaire without massive amounts of exploiting people for profit, and someone like that isn’t going to support Lemmy since there’s no profit to be had. There are no left-leaning billionaires, only neo-liberal billionaires.
I hope he wasn’t serious lol, he even has three arrows on his profile pic. It’s such a corporate thing to say.
True but donations help, it’s the best way to support this kind of projects IMO, doesn’t cover admins time and the soul they pour into it but at least the server costs.
I’m definitely not opposed to this from an ideological perspective — you are actively producing content for a platform that’s making money off of it, so surely revenue sharing with you is just the right thing to do.
That said unless the system has extensive human involvement I have no idea how it could possibly work. It seems rife for abuse. And I would bet on it being the first thing cut during cost-cutting (if it was ever implemented at all of which I’m pretty skeptical).
