How is it that free market’s modus operandi seem to be attempting suicide every few years?
It’s not free enough!!!
No joke, though, there are people who think that letting things hit the wall as fast and hard as possible is desirable. It’s called accelerationism.
I’m torn about this cause on one hand it would show the problems before they have a chance to set in, but on the other it would probably end in authoritarianism if it led to governmental collapse.
The accelerationists do tend to have quite an overlap with various flavours of authoritarianism. One has to wonder about their motives.
The only problem communism has solved so far is obesity.
Let me interest you in this wonderful thing called 🪩 Anarchism 🪩
That’s just actual libertarianism, you can’t trick me, punk.
“Anything I don’t agree with is communism!”
Because the only alternative to unregulated capitalism is authoritarianism, got it
He’s reaching for the “it’s not good but it’s the best system we’ve got” from the lib capitalist playbook
Why dont you tell us you have a paper thin understanding of communism without telling us you have a paper thin understanding of communism…
I think it’s interesting that people always just jump to “communism is when no food,” like there have been no famines or starvation under capitalism.
Especially when you can note that those problems with food production were basically immediately solved with the extremely deserved death of Lysenkoism.
Lysenko wouldn’t be a problem in first place, if he bet his own capital on his hypothesis.
He also wouldn’t have been a problem if Lenin had had Stalin shot in the head so he could be succeeded by Trotsky or Bukharin, but that’s how it goes in a near dictatorship, I guess.
Is there a reason why you chose to be reactionary on the internet today?
This isn’t Reddit, you can be nicer than this, and maybe discuss the point about libertarianism that you like instead of just jumping to a bad faith argument against another economic system that neither OP, nor the post has brought up.
Remember there’s a person on the other side of the screen. Unless it’s a bit of course, but you know better than to take the bait of bots.
Have you actually read about it from various sources that you cross referenced or are you taking this from your libertarian society that instilled its beliefs on you through culture?
People in Russia and China were much hungrier and unequal before the communist revolution, look it up. Unless you’re talking about Cuba, which the US tried desperately to overturn and starve.
Do you people actually think the housing market is a free market??? It’s one of the most overly regulated markets! Zoning laws restrict what kind of housing can be built all over the US. Getting rid of those would allow for more mixed style housing and that is one example of de-regulation and making a freer market.
You’re conflating the meme’s argument with a whole host of problems designed to segregate and let companies profiteer off of single-family housing.
It would also allow Exxon to install an oil rig 15 feet away from your backyard privacy fence and there’s not shit you can do about it. Zoning laws exist for a reason. They’re a bit shit, yes, and changing the way they work would go a long way toward improving America’s reliance on cars. But blanket removal of regulations is never the answer for any industry anywhere. We should know better by this point that unregulated capitalists will extract every last drop of value from a given proposition with no regard to anyone else impacted by it. It’s happened hundreds of times already.
I kept reading that as librarian
I did too and was about to throw hands in defence of my local library
The market isn’t free, there’s a ton of restrictions and policies that benefit large corporations while making it very difficult for new companies to make any headway against their competition
That’s what free market means
You’ve got it backwards. If it wasn’t for the government, regulations and anti monopoly laws there wouldn’t be any new companies, it’d just be one major Corp for each sector.
They still don’t even go far enough tbh.
Remove those restrictions and things get shittier, not more competitive. The only thing that makes smaller companies competitive is either 1, they corner some disruptive market that the big boys are ignoring (this is so rare you likely know all of the big instances of this) or 2, antitrust breaks up the big companies so that a more competitive market emerges.
That’s it. Anything else is an edge case of an edge case and not worth bothering with. The top of that list is removing regulations. Regulations are written in blood and acting like they’re just red tape in your way is how people die.
Yeah wtf. Regulation is the only reason new businesses can come into the market at all
Indeed. Any problem with small business breaking in right now is mostly a function of the fact that our system for anti-trust has completely fallen off. Like the story about Microsoft and Phil Spencer wanting to buy Nintendo or Valve - in a sane world, they wouldn’t even consider it because that’s a clear case of consolidation that is harmful for consumers.
i thought being a libertarian was cool when i was 20 and wanted to smoke weed but didn’t know how to get any
“We live in a society” - the jonkler
“Not if I can help it” - libertarians
**beef stroganoff starts
The difference is that they think that gatekeeping poor people from services in order to bring costs down for everyone else is valid. I’ve seen libertarians argue that the solution to tuition and healthcare being expensive is to stop helping poor people, because that will drive demand down and lower prices for people who can already afford it. I’ve seen libertarians argue that the solution to people scalping groceries is to let grocery stores price gouge. Their solutions only ever involve helping people who don’t need help at the expense of people who do. Libertarianism is “me, me, me right now now now” dressed up in fancy language. It’s the political philosophy of a tumor.
“It’s the political philosophy of a tumor.” Fantastic analogy!
If it helps at all, mostly it just hurts even those it’s supposed to help while the upper class reaps the rewards.
Libertarianism is a great system if you’re using it as a backdrop for a cyberpunk dystopia.
It’s great if the concept of a conscience is disgusting to you and you’re proud of all the progress you made that was even partly because of the things you’re trying to get rid of
You won me over at cyberpunk.
Communists irl
Being Libertarian means never having to admit you’re a Republican
Libertarians are just Republicans that want to smoke weed.
I really hate this sentiment because if you actually look into the libertarian party platform and their recent candidates, they are nothing like Republicans. LP has supported LGBTQ+ rights for decades, they support open borders, support social freedom, don’t like religion in govt, etc. I mean, the only real overlap between the LP and Republican party is like, guns. I know many people would argue that they have similar economic policies but they really don’t, all Republicans have done in the last twenty years is spend more money and specifically only remove the regulations that are actually useful.
But at the same time, whenever I meet someone who calls themselves a “libertarian”… yeah 90% of the time they are just edgy Republicans.
Be fair. Some of them are republicans who are more open about not wanting age of consent to be a thing.
I’ve always said a Libertarian is a Republican who is trying to sleep with a Democrat. Vice versa works too.
What else but regulations prevents the creation of surplus housing? That poverty as a feature post, why are those houses not been built?
It only takes a few people to solve the housing market in a liberal market by organizing the construction. With regulations, it takes a majority to make a change. The same majority who could rise taxes and build affordable housing with tax money right now.
There is land, unemployed people who can do the construction and people with income who seek housing and will pay for it. Who is preventing the construction?
Zoning codes that restrict density are the opposite of a free market.
So are HOAs
“Fun” fact: both single-family residential zoning and HOAs were created, in large part, as strategies to perpetuate segregation after de jure segregation was outlawed.
You ever hear a libertarian complain about flying? Fascinating one-person debate about airlines and deregulation.
As far as I can tell, the ones with money want a free hand to do whatever they want to others without repercussion, and the ones without money are willfully drinking the Kool Aid and being led around by the nose philosophically.
So Republicans then.
I can’t tell the difference. 🤷
Those damn liberatarians
I’m still trying to work it into a Liberace pun…
