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Thought I’d never see the day when Firefox would match Chrome on Speedometer.
There’s also a few other benchmarks got a sizable boost. https://arewefastyet.com/
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I wonder how battery usage compares on a MacBook between these 2 and Safari.
Safari will always win because they are optimized to the HW and only for that HW…
Same as edge… I do have some hack on Linux, but it sacrifice js capabilities and background pages, but achieve the same as safari in Mac or Edge on Windows
If you are on linux wayland, enable wayland mode for firefox and enjoy the huge performance boost
This sounds like what I’m missing 😁
Sadly I’m using XFCE, and XFCE isn’t ready for wayland, so I will keep waiting until wayland stable enough on XFCE. Other DE isn’t suiting my taste tbh. well it’s mater of preference, but XFCE is stable roboust DE for me to keep me focus on works
Good news: Xfce is working on Wayland support!
Bad news: We don’t know when it will be done…
Hahahaha… Well, let the dev team work in real life for a while tho. Hahaha
Why does anyone use chome, its way worse then any other browser you can install, they put so much junk on it.
Forced to with work.
I utterly hate it. I don’t have it on my personal setup or android mobile - been using Firefox for twenty years now, not gonna stop!
Don’t you have the option to use the Chromium Edge at your workplace? At least it has better features as compared to Chrome. My employer has all 3 of Chrome, FF & Edge installed but I use Edge over FF at office because they don’t allow 3rd party extensions.
What a world we live in where people are recommending what used to be Internet Explorer over Chrome.
To be fair, internet Explorer used to be pretty good some time ago…
Nope, it’s completely locked down by IT policy restrictions unfortunately.
I can use portable installs but last time I got found out I got a right bollocking!!
Financial org, so everything is very black and white unfortunately, although I did argue my way into having Notepad++
There’s a lot of non-Chrome Chromium browsers.
Not sure if it’s still a thing (I use DDG now), but back then when you visited Google on a non-Chrome browser, you would get a recommendation to use Chrome instead.
People stop using chrome.its not good for you nor for the internet.
What if I just… Spoof a Firefox user agent?? 😅
And enjoy your ads?
That’ll work but why not install firefox?
Firefox is great… and we must use it at all cost
#eh /jk, no forcing, but Firefox indeed great!
No no people need to be forced to use Firefox. How else will they see the greatness?
They will after they left chromium world, ehehe… hehehe
HEHEHE
I just need to give it another chance, I literally removed Firefox two weeks ago after a problem using video calls, buuut I’m always fing around with the audio setup so Firefox may not have been at fault. For real though I never knew there is a Wayland mode, I’m excited to try it
I switched to Chrome a few years back because Firefox kept deleting my bookmarks.
Been using Firefox for over 15 years, including weird open source custom forks of it, and I’ve never run into that issue. I’ve got bookmarks kicking around that I imported into FF from IE on Windows XP.
Not saying it didn’t happen, but I’d hazard a guess that it was related to some bookmarks related addon you installed, or user error. Sorry you lost your bookmarks.
What does speed mean in this regard? Download speed?
JS Render speed, so in past website like facebook, new.reddit.com, discourse based forum, etc that rely heavily in JS, now load and render faster in Firefox than ever
Oh, well that’s good. I’ve never thought Firefox took too long to load but I’m happy with shit being faster.
For anyone else wondering, I’m assuming they’re talking about JavaScript.
Firefox in general is faster for me than Chrome in many pages
However a notable exception are web games and web based game emulators. They’re a lot slower on Firefox and i get horrible sound crackling whereas on Chrome its much better. It’s been like this for years with no seeming improvement.
Please open bug ticket in Mozilla Bugzilla. It will help the Firefox development further. 🎊
Why is Chrome’s performance so much better than Chromium?
Because Google throttles all it’s services, including AMP, for every non-google browser.
I stopped using Firefox because it had issues playing videos. I also ran into a number of web sites that were displayed badly.
I don’t think site displayed badly is Mozilla problem, because there are web standard. If they don’t follow the standard, it won’t even show on anything I suppose, even chrome. But if in chrome it displayed neatly, then you need to ask to yourself, does that a website, or chromiumsite
Nice. I think it’s time for me to try it again. I want to start getting away from google as much as possible.
The only thing that kept me was YouTube performance. Once Firefox improved that I saw no reason to stay.
Librewolf.
Lags behind on updates by a few days, which is a non negotiable for me. I use normal FF + Arkenfox User.js
I did not know about this option, I will investigate. Thanks for sharing
I have been using Firefox for basically as long as I can remember and I love it. However, there’s one website that I go to Chromium for: GeoGuessr/Google Street View. For some reason it’s unbelievably slow and sluggish in Firefox whereas it works normally in Chromium. Why could this be? To be clear, it’s only the Street View part (and moving/panning/zooming) that’s slow on GeoGuessr.
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It wouldn’t surprise me if the implementation has bias towards Chromium based browsers as both street view and Chromium are from Google.
They were literally caught artificially slowing down page loads and responsiveness on non-chrome browsers a while back.
Do you mean the time when YouTube’s UI was built using a pre-standardized version of the Shadow DOM API, and had to polyfill it in Firefox? If so, that was tech debt, not artificially slowing down page loads for Firefox on purpose. It was a tradeoff that let non-Chrome users use YouTube until they finally upgraded a year or two later.
If that’s not it, I’d love to see what you’re referring to.
Anything that Google site engineering mostly against web standard, and pushing chromium standard. So I don’t even… Surprised I guess?
Is this for both desktop and mobile versions? Sorry if that is a silly question.
This is specifically for the Windows version. You can also find Linux and Mac results here by selecting the OS from the drop-down list at the top.
I only see Chromium and Chrome on the speedometer for Linux, not Firefox. Am I missing something?
Here’s what I see: https://i.ibb.co/g9yLrmp/image.png
I think for now it’s on desktop Windows? But on Linux I do notice faster react app load like reddit new design is faster. But I use lemmy, so it doesn’t matter now.
Probably desktop. Or desktop and android. Remember that iOS locked down the browser years ago and require any third parties to run on safari’s bones.
Definitely not Android. Firefox is unfortunately quite a bit slower than Chrome based browsers. I still use it as I don’t really do much on my phone, but I hope they can optimize it further.
I use Firefox on android (specifically fennec f droid) and i use it since ublock origin can be installed and my fennec is hardened too
Chrome and Firefox are building iOS browsers that do not require the apple WebKit. Everyone, including apple, expect apple to drop that requirement soon to help avoid antitrust issues.
expect apple to drop that requirement soon to help avoid antitrust issues.
I’m surprised it took this long.
That’s quite good to hear, do you have any further reading that you know of?
Edit: here’s the top article from DDG - https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/07/mozilla_google_apple_webkit/
I wonder how Safari compares to those in this chart.
I’m proud of Firefox, but man, that’s a bad graph :)
I rarely feel like the slowness of a website was due to the browser. I mean .4 seconds or .5 seconds does it really matter? I’ve been using Firefox since it was Firebird and speed has never really been a complaint. People need to measure and quantify everything.
What appeals to me about Firefox is how customizable it is, and all the extensions.
Firebird?
Phoenix became Firebird which became Firefox.
Since Firebird, eh? That means you are responsible for my beloved Mozilla suite being ditched for this upstart.
My bigger complaint is memory usage
Same for me. Since I switched to Firebird/Firefox, no other browser has given me a reason to seriously consider switching.
On old HW it does matter. I use X220 Thinkpad, it’s still fast using chrome, and slow using firefox. But since 115, it’s noticeably fast… so… it matter, for me.
I’m still a little mad that they had to change it from Phoenix. Such a great and evocative name.
I miss Galeon a little too. Practically invented the tabbed browser.
