Having ads in fucking movies makes a service feel cheap / lower value. But the price is staying the same, so where’s that button to cancel?
I ended up googling cancel prime membership, and that led me to a page with a cancel button.
That’s the great part, you can’t cancel.
You can cancel. Source: cancelled recently.
I’d say we crossed the Rubicon on this front decades ago, when in-person, at the theater, movies started showing actual ads and not just trailers before the movie you just paid for (and it was at the same price, of course).
I remember the first time I experienced this in a theater. My GF was like “…the hell?” and people were fucking booing the ads. But it didn’t matter enough - the ads are still here.
And yeah, it still annoys me.
When do you guys think they (companies/rich people/shareholders(?)) will realize that growth for the sake of growth is not viable and there will be a point of stagnation? Like… What are they gonna do, keep raising prices until nobody can b uy anything anymore?
When it stops being viable. They have no commitment to the company. They’ll suck it dry and move on to the next project.
The internet has gotten 3x shittier in the last 12 months.
Covid kindness is over. Buckle up buckaroos.
There’s a reason for it, people don’t push back enough. We all need to push back more than we have been.
They’re noticing the pushback so far, but they’re thinking they can break through it and come out victorious on the other side.
Do you really want to pay a monthly fee to be forced to watch commercials?
The whole point of commercials was that you didn’t have to pay otherwise to watch the show.
Partly, this is because “the free market will solve it” is just a neoliberal lie. Sometimes, there’s simply no other choice as corporations race each other to the bottom.
So this streaming service might have gotten shitty, espensive or unethical, but you can move to another right? Oh no, looks like they’re shitty and unethical too, just slightly differently.
Then in six months time, they’ve each absorbed one another’s shitty, greedy practises anyway, ensuring consumers are fully exploited with nowhere else to go.
But the true power of neoliberalism lies in its giant book of premade excuses, so neoliberals (or neoliberals in disguise) will of course read from the next page:
“Oh that’s just because there isn’t enough competition. We just need to deregulate heavily and allow companies to do whatever the streaming equivalent of dumping toxic by-products in the river is!”
But of course, that won’t ever come true either. The companies that already exist will grow more profitable polluting the river and new entries into the market will be either stamped out, bought and stripped for parts or enshittified by the same greed over time.
Following the flowchart taught at exclusive, expensive schools the world over, the next excuse is to blame the consumers.
“Oh if people really cared, they’d simply stop buying things entirely. But they don’t, because these companies continue to bring in record profits. So secretly, consumers actually love their chocolate being picked by child slaves”.
While they do fight back with boycotts, public outcry and (in this case) things like password sharing and piracy, it’s nothing companies can’t crush if it looks like it might actually dent their profits.
At some point, consumers need to pick their misery and the choices are bleak but obvious.
They can accept the minor misery of advertising, even as they pay a subscription, just like the corporation knew they would.
They can escalate their own misery further by boycotting the entire platform or industry.
But the moral high ground doesn’t make spending your few hours of personal time each day staring at the wall suddenly as entertaining as whatever content you’re no longer watching.
Also, the company doesn’t care. That was part of their calculations and they’re still making even more money.
Or finally, they could maximise their misery and actually do something, like busting out the guillotines or becoming a politician that opposes neoliberalism yet is somehow allowed power.
So anyway, people are tired. The fight never ends and some people have fought it for 50 years already. Encourage them to take the third option by all means, but don’t shame them for taking the first option.
They might already be miserable enough.
And the thing is, the product everyone’s got their butts in a bunch over is garbage television. Amazon Prime, Hulu, Netflix, HBO Max, Maytag Plus, there’s nothing good on any of them.
[very verbose initial response]
Honestly don’t mean this as an insult, but you might want to consider being more concise, so that your point comes across better.
So anyway, people are tired. The fight never ends and some people have fought it for 50 years already. Encourage them to take the third option by all means, but don’t shame them for taking the first option.
I’m not purposely trying to shame people, but I’ll definitely get on their cases if they don’t push back and let this crap continue.
It’s called consumer advocacy, and it shouldn’t be shamed away and not done. Those who are causing the problems in society would benefit the most if this happened.
If we all work together, it’s been proven that it does turn things around.
They might already be miserable enough.
It’s not my fault they’re that way, it’s the fault of the people making society horrible so they can selfishly make more money for themselves, which must be fought against.
The ones making Society horrible definitely win when no one pushes back.
Honestly don’t mean this as an insult, but you might want to consider being more concise, so that your point comes across better.
I’m cool with ranting. I enjoy the act of writing, blogs are long dead and it’s important to articulate why so many things in the world are fucking shit.
If we all work together, it’s been proven that it does turn things around
When?
The ones making Society horrible definitely win when no one pushes back.
They also win when people do push back, because thats how the game has been rigged. The extent of the public’s power is making them win slightly less.
The only way to stop companies doing unethical things is strict regulations, ruthlessly enforced. The only times “consumer advocacy” ever works is when the government steps in, which is why the ultra wealthy go to so much effort to ensure they never do.
One good person in politics, with power, is worth a million people boycotting.
If we all work together, it’s been proven that it does turn things around
When?
Unions.
They also win when people do push back, because thats how the game has been rigged.
Strawman.
The only way to stop companies doing unethical things is strict regulations, ruthlessly enforced.
Its the most important way, but not the only way.
One good person in politics, with power, is worth a million people boycotting.
Definately agree with this. But its not a zero sum gain, an either/or. Both can happen, and increase the odds of success.
I’ve cancelled everything in my life that requires a monthly payment (asides vehicle and rent).
It’s not that I can’t afford it, it’s that I’m fucking sick of it.
^ This. 💯
It’s not that I can’t afford it, it’s that I’m fucking sick of it.
And that’s how they win, it’s what they count on. It’s a death by a thousand cuts for us and more profits for them.
Don’t give up now, you won’t just fail yourself, you’ll fail everyone, if you do.
Apparently this is how cable started, and then they did the same thing lol
That was in back before the Internet though.
The internet was invented in the 60s
I know, I was there. But I’m talking about when it was used by the larger general public, which was in the 90’s. Before that, it was people dialing up on modems to BBS’.
Eternal September is real. It’s sad
Eternal September is real.
the money is drying up, gotta find new ways to monetise
All these services turning into shit, are the services without a viable business model to begin with. What I find interesting is that it is obviously possible to become leading in a field, just by burning investors money.
It wouldn’t matter if they were drowning in money, if you told them they could have a few pennies more from each customer, they’ll do it. It’s how greed works.
Used to have prime. Never got the same day delivery they promised. Box was always smashed to fuck (the normal delivery was often quicker and less damaged). Used it for the movies and a couple of shows. 11 quid a month was already a lot, if you’re going to add more on to take features off the normal tier then they can go and fuck themselves. Will never buy it again, they make enough money and dont pay their taxes.
Yarrr!
I am not paying to watch commercials. Fuck that.
I think most of us pay for the shipping, the video is just a bonus. That said, their exclusives aren’t that great and they just end up in medusa.
I think most of us pay for the shipping, the video is just a bonus.
You’re not wrong, but the point though is to not reward them for bad behavior.
It’s a death by “1,000 cuts” if you do.
i stopped using amazøn years ago. shop local & stop killing the economy. it’s just gonna get worse the more money you give them
Should I shop at the Target, Wal-Mart or the CVS instead?
There are no “local” stores near me. Just massive corporations who treat their employees like shit. Costco is the exception to the treating-their-employees-like-shit rule, but sometimes I don’t need a lifetime supply of an item.
Yeah, those behemoths all share responsibility for killing the mom and pop stores. It’s not impossible to shop around to local variants. But probably the best solution is to learn how to kick the habit that American culture has foisted upon us all of buying endless piles of useless crap.
I cancelled my prime subscription years ago. I occassionally restart it for a month at a time if I need some esoteric hobby thing and I would be forced into paying for shipping or for prime. Then I’ll watch some stuff on their streaming service. Last time I used it, it was awful. Half of the shows were gatekept behind some ad system. And the “Amazon Originals” are all just extraordinarily expensive shows with terrible writing. Uhg. I am making it a point to not have an active prime subscription when Christmas rolls around. We (the collective we, as in, humanity) don’t need more garbage.
Thats a lot of words to ignore the comment you’re replying to.
All those stores sell neccessities as well as junk, so distilling it down to simply not buying junk is reductive and dismissive. If someone needs clothes and Walmart and Target are the only places available, are they supposed to go nude? Additionally, you’re literally ignoring that they said that there are not local options available to them.
Nome of what you said is particularly untrue, it’s just completely ignoring the comment you replied to.
Yeah, where my Mom lives, the food options are:
- Walmart
- An erratically pricey local grocery, that rents its building (which has a leaky roof, requiring them to move product when it rains)
- Dollar General
- A farmer’s market that’s open once a week for a few hours before the afternoon heat, a few months a year, if no events have pre-empted it, having an inventory of which about 30% is bulk-bought supermarket produce with the labels (sometimes) removed
- A 90 minute drive; no trains, no buses (literally, no buses) to the next largest town
And she lives in a town people drive to, to get food, clothes, medicine, etc.
She gets as much as she can from the local grocer, for whatever that’s worth; the inventory is frequently poor, & about on-par with Dollar General so far as brand-representation, goes. When tourists ask if the store has something, they get pointed to Walmart.
yes actually, you answered your own question
I agree but I can’t really afford to. My local hardware store is great but their prices are higher than big box hardware stores or amazon on many items. For example I replaced an outdoor GFCI outlet that cost $25 local or $18 from big box hardware or amazon. The outlet cover was $10 local or $5 anazon.
It’s the same where I live. Do I shop local and spend 2-5 times more for the item or buy it from lowes or Walmart? The kicker is that it is sometimes even the exact same brand and model item.
So with the media industry strikes the content is already going to be crap next year. Why not also include ads with it? WTF Amazon.
“Can’t get worse at this point, eh?” Amazon: hold my beer
If you want a free version with ads they have Freevee. I mean, they don’t have the same shows but it’s free.
Was already going to cancel when my renewal was up, now i’ll cancel even harder.
Come sail the high seas.
With Netflix already having ads we are now 75% of the way to “cutting the cord” going back to reinventing cable again.
Some of us never stopped sailing the high seas matey. Yarrrrr!
@OldWoodFrame @ZeroCool yeah I will never, Comcast/Xfinity are total scum bags and I would pay extra to never give them money ever again. Unfortunately I am forced to use them for Internet, there’s no way I’m paying for their cable TV programming.
“Again”?
I’ve still been out here since Napster. Welcome back aboard, we kept the torrents warm for you.
As someone who doesn’t sail the high seas, I thank you. Sometimes it looks like there won’t be any classic media left without your efforts.
I like something I saw on here awhile ago that was something like " streaming services where only successful because they where slightly more convenient that pirating " for a while I mostly used a couple of streaming services despite most of the apps having really bad interfaces . But my Plex server has been growing in size lately while the streaming services are being cancelled.
My breaking point for paying for something that I could otherwise get for free is convenience. Doesn’t even need to be a lot, I just refuse to pay for a product that artificially more of a hassle than the identical product that I can obtain for free.
It’s not so much that I want a superior product, it’s that I refuse to pay money for an inferior alternative.
My line is ads if I’m paying for something I’m not watching ads . I actually pay for YouTube premium because it’s worth it in my opinion for the amount I use for it and I use YouTube music alot too .
What are the cool kids using these days?
Seedboxes. Download the torrent on someone else’s computer, and then directly download it to yours through an encrypted connection. Sorta like a “money-laundering” for pirated content.
Honestly still just using Qbittorrent with a VPN; it’s a dream now that fibre is pretty ubiquitous. Mine hit 100MB/S yesterday, a 1.4Gb file takes about 10 seconds
Qbit+VPN to grab, radarr/sonarr to catalogue, overseerr to request, and plex/jellyfin to watch.
I was using torrents for years before I started messing with Usenet. Now I’ve got it set up it’s easy to grab pretty much anything and at higher quality than before.
if it was still just netflix, and everybody didn’t have their own streaming service, that would be different.
but when you add up netflix, prime, disney, paramount, peacock, max, and whatever else, the wallet definitely says it’s just like cable.
do one at a time and rotate, maybe have one you ‘always’ have. you can’t watch 10 different services at once anyway.
Or just download what you want and say “fuck ‘em”
And that’s why people started sailing the high seas again.
Ha, I never stopped.
Arrrrrr! RD be the GOAT.
Fr. Stremio is everything.
My NAS is my best friend.
I had to upgrade mine probably 2 years ago now. I had nearly maxed out the 12TB I had. Now I have almost 30TB and some breathing room. Granted a lot of that is non-movies/TV but a good chunk of it is.
I’d be interested in building one… what do you recommend ?
I have an Asustor Drivestor 2 and a 4tb Seagate NAS HDD. IIRC, it was around $300 total. I’ve only been using it for a few months, but it’s an easily expandable setup if you want to add more storage later!
https://youtu.be/Th6PW5VwDFI?si=EvzuXbkiQGoeTW3C
Honestly everytime I have to feel proud for sailing I dance like an idiot while the magnet links are being being pasted on the real debrid
Indeed.
- Ad-blocking (before anything online)
- DHT crawler, or index sites if DHT has too many results
- right-click/long-press on magnet URL
- copy link
- paste magnet link
- remove tracker URLs (not needed)
- go
- enjoy
Hm, 8 steps, is one more than the 7 stages of grief; but I’ll take this over yet-another subscription service that continually degrades in quality for the dollar.
What is a DHT crawler?
Well, it seems Amazon doesn’t want my money. Don’t worry, you won’t see it anymore.
We should have canceled when Prime got rid of UPS pick up for free. Only reason I used it. Now there is zero benefit to Prime with this new stupid ad tier. You don’t even get free grocery delivery.
They’re still happy to accept food-stamp revenue though, if you get Amazon Prime, of course…
What is ironic about this is that Bezos could probably make all of their video streaming free and have no ads and still be making gobs of money. Their AWS ecosystem is practically a license to print money. Oh and that little store he runs on the side, too…
But it’s not enough to make a lot of money, you have to make ALL the money.
reminds me I need to setup sonarr, radarr and jellyfin
Does anyone have a comprehensible guide for setting all this up?
A worthy investment.
My stack + Jackett and unpackarr + telegram for notifications. It works perfectly
Check out prowlerr over jacket, I found it much better
Interesting, I tried prowlarr aswell just found Jackett easier and “it just work” which is probably simply because I use it for so long.
To each their own!