I can’t really comprehend how it got so accepted. Why don’t we punish this behaviour sufficiently if it is observed. Something like 12h of picking up filters would be quite fitting.
How would that be enforced?
I think it probably would be enough if smokers just have to fear getting caught because its really not that big of a deal to throw it into the trash.
Presumably by police officers issuing citations for littering and judges imposing sentences that include community service doing litter cleanup.
Look at Singapore
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I love sending in dashcam videos of litterers, instant $400 fine lol
Lol, I think the problem goes way beyond smokers.
But if you want to be the guy that singles out one small group of people to antagonize in a sea of sinners, I’m not gonna stop you.
There can be a great many things that make it difficult to do so, but at the end of the day, each and every person is responsible for properly disposing of their trash.
Agreed.
And this, children, is what we call Whataboutism.
Call it what you want. The point remains the same.
Did i just see this same meme on c/ich_iel or am i worse at german than i thought?
No, you’re right. When I create a meme, I also post a German version.
Oh, based
All the smokers I know pocket their butts and toss them in the garbage later 🤷
I guess they still ash their cigs on the ground, but I don’t really see ash as an issue. Maybe it is, but not to my knowledge
Ash is not as much of an issue, the butts are toxic to wildlife.
My experience is totally opposite, I don’t know a single smoker who disposes of their butts properly.
I did when I smoked. I knew a few others who did as well (maybe only when I was around them idk). But yeah, the vast majority don’t give a fuck.
I hate to say it, but these days it’s kind of a thing mostly underprivileged people do, and these people tend to have bigger problems than being socially and environmentally conscious.
I can’t speak to quantities or rates, but I see a LOT of cigarette butts on the ground. This meme is right on target, in my experience.
My “favorite” was the time one threw their cigarette butt out the window of their car on a highway and it somehow ended up under the cowl of my windshield, so the smell was being sucked into my car by the ventilation system. And I couldn’t easily get in there to remove it - I needed tools I didn’t have on the road with me. At least it didn’t start a fire.
I’ve since quit, but me and my friends would dispose of our butts properly. The problem is like a single asshole can toss 20+ butts in a day. So it’s really obvious when people are shitheads, but you’ll basically never notice people are functioning members of society.
Yeah, that’s why I mentioned not knowing rates - I’m sure there are people who do the right thing with them, but the ones that don’t are the ones that are going to stand out.
That’s nasty, I have a nice burn hole in my jacket because someone tossed a lit cigarette out of their window and it landed in my jacket hoodie while riding a motorcycle.
Ash is good for soil fertility tbf
What makes you think the toxic heavy metals suddenly disappear when the cigarette is lit?
I’m talking about ash mate.
And he’s talking about the toxic heavy metals the ash still likely contains.
because I inhaled them dummy
What does what you said, have to do with what he said? Technically his statement was completely true. Your exclamation isn’t really related to what he actually said.
Cigarette butts, the thing op is complaining about, are not mostly ash. They’re mostly plastic. Not cool to litter.
My boss literally wanted me to clean up cigarettes that him and several other workers threw on the ground constantly. Keep in mind there’s a cigarette trash can that’s right outside but no one cares to use it. Needless to say, I said fuck no and he didn’t argue lmao.
You don’t realize how scarce trash cans there are until you start smoking.
That’s why I became enlightened and switched to vaping. Now I can stop worrying about trashcans and just pour chemicals straight into the ground (and into my own pockets). 256 IQ move right there, so smart it overflows back to 0.
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“On your right you can see our newest national heritage, the Elfbar-forest”
When I was still smoking I had a pocket ashtray. Saw them in some random anime a couple of years back and then bought one.
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Smoke pipe. No ash, no butts
If you use paper filters, they’re also biodegradable on their own.
No ash? That’s smoking butane.
Suck in the cached bowl and pour the bong out when you’re done smoking. You don’t have to use the lighter the entire time when you’re smoking the bowl. Leave it cherried, and when it goes out, suck it into the bong. You will have to clean your bong more often.
A reminder: the filters are basically plastic and will last forever.
Say what you want about the rest, it’s filters which bother me the most.
up to 10 years or so, actually --> https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/resources/1543-measuring-biodegradability
not sure about glass - obsidian is basically glass and it lasts a lot longer than that.
Not sure about that list - they don’t “biodegrade”, but they do break down into microplastics, our favourite size of plastic these days.
eh, i prefer the nanoplastics - microplastics make my cells feel funny
See, that’s exactly why I don’t use an Ash tray or a bin.
I don’t throw it on the ground either. I just swallow it. There is no need to worry about littering or finding somewhere for it that way.
I thought they were cotton. TIL.
Cellulose acetate. Yeah.
Interesting.
“cigarette filters take years to be broken down in the open”
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulose_acetate
Not that I doubted you at all, I just wanted to get a bit more detail. The whole article is rather interesting in how we’ve used CA as a society and what happens to it. In some cases, according to the above, the product can be biodegraded using cellulaise and exposure to 280nm or smaller wavelengths of light to promote the process; the cellulaise is only present in very bio-active soil, which isn’t common in places where smokers will be tossing their butts, the filter is usually protected by paper wrap, so even sitting in the open where it can be bombarded with direct sunlight, there’s going to be a significant delay before any UV can reach the CA in the filter.
I’m extrapolating from the Wikipedia article for that last bit… but it’s logically sound. Between the difficulty of UV reaching the CA, plus the absence of any additional substances to aid in the degradation of the CA, it would take substantial time to degrade. Though it’s derived from either cotton or wood cellulose.
It’s fascinating stuff.
I’ve never regularly smoked cigarettes, and I’ve always had an issue with people just flicking their butts wherever they want. Now I have scientific information to support that discomfort, so thanks
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smoking is a beautifully executed tax on people via addiction. They created a product they cloak in the terminology of freedom and history, loaded with additional addictive chemicals and pushed it on our youth years ago. It’s not bad enough to kill you or your ability to “produce” but the odds are good it will kill you before you can collect social security and will act as a daily tax as its marked as a luxury good. It’s disgusting for all kinds of reasons that have nothing to do with the filter or the smell.
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Don’t see anything wrong with a cigar or hookah once in a while, cigs are gross though.
Blame TV and movies too
And those candy cigarettes we used to eat
They don’t get thrown on the ground…
Maybe big tobacco as well. I feel bad for someone with an addiction. But choosing to throw waste on streets, sidewalks, or natural places is just rude and gross. Don’t make your problem everyone’s problem.
I don’t see big tobacco adds throwing butts on the ground…
I disagree with the title tho. Correlation doesn’t imply causation.
Agreed, it was likely they were already dumbasses which lead to them becoming smokers.
Good point.
The first time a smoker would ask…
