What do you think modern spirituality is? Philosophically, stoicism and buddhism have all the answers I need.
I’ve found a big part of the spirituality community is guru-type guys trying to spirituality their way into young girls pants and a bunch of women burned by said guru-guys. Eg, confest creeps, anyone ever met a guy who goes by Quoll?
I have ZERO time for reiki, tarot, psychics or anything to do with crystal energy. I think it’s nonsense and avoid getting to know “believers”. I’m not interested in debate with someone so off the deep end of reality, I feel they’re akin to flat-earthers.
These days the whole eat healthy food --> crunchy parents --> right-wing nutjob pathway seems very prevalent. Many of my loose bush doof friends have started talking about satanists taking over and the need to protect ourselves from the government. One mate called the whole Trump trail a false flag because Trump was going to reveal the truth about “how it all works”. The anti-government / right-wing view come thick and strong.
I’ve grown up Buddhist but have left the community, kind of felt like a loser magnet. I’m fine handling my relationship with the universe on my own terms. There’s no shortage of self-directed study material. I have zero belief in an afterlife.
I’m surprised to hear that a portion of that community has turned towards the right wing.
I think even they don’t know it themselves. The podcast “Conspirituality” is pretty good at investigating this stuff, from what I hear. I think it’s a distinctly post-Trump thing that went into overdrive with Covid. Distrusting the lockdown and vaccine measures opened up huge swathes to hardcore rightwing communities that were ready to suck them in and provide them with a sense of community in a time of crisis overriding rational thought (which was unfortunately the basis of many hippie groups in the first place tbh).
Not subscribing to identity politics is also a hard one with progressive circles as you mentioned.
Every “scene” has its downside tbh, especially if you have a difficult past and/or are not white. It’s an everyday task to rewire the brain to allow moments of belonging and areas of common ground to sink in, vs the sometimes disproportionate amount of attention given to the moments of not-belonging. Hard to not be hyper vigilant and to trust. Trying to seek a community in that frame of mind is difficult…
I have ZERO time for reiki, tarot, psychics or anything to do with crystal energy. I think it’s nonsense and avoid getting to know “believers”. I’m not interested in debate with someone so off the deep end of reality, I feel they’re akin to flat-earthers.
I too would love to know what modern spirituality actually consists of. There are plenty of options on offer out there. My problem with what passes for modern ‘spirituality’ is that the people that do it can degenerate into candle-waving idiots very quickly. Ripe for exploitation by influencers and other profiteers. I very much distrust anything that requires me to buy something to be ‘spiritual’. I’m including christianity in this list, and it’s a long one.
I guess the operative word here is community - cos we all need at least one as we are pack/herd animals at a very basic level. Community is worth seeking out but comes in a lot of different flavours and uses a lot of different jargons. I’m all in favour of researching the topic personally, but would encourage you to keep your brain cells engaged while you do so. There will be other events like this expo - there are too many fools out there ready to spend their money on shit.
My mum is extremely spiritual, I grew up learning how to do tarot readings, which crystals have certain energies, aura readings, palm readings, etc.
I don’t believe any of it, all it did was exacerbate her schizophrenia lol.
There is a crystal shop on Sydney Rd now though, and I bought a small garnet because they’re pretty. My inner magpie loves crystals and stones. If you have a specific crystal in mind, I can have a look for you! Let me know!
They have malachite, Moldavite, and serpentine, from memory. Ill pop down this week and see what they have in stock. I guess it depends what kind of green lol
That’s fancy as! I don’t think they have that. Maybe a jewellery shop will. But I’ll check this week anyway; I tend to go for walks along Sydney Road so I’ll check :D
@Gibsonisafluffybutt@Seagoon_ I am vaguely Quaker. Humanistic agnostic and very moderate, but still believe the universe is a mystery. My wife is lapsed catholic and dabbles in psychic and magic practises.
Ahmadi, Sufi, Wahabi, Shiite, Sunni are all denominations of islam I believe. I heard the call to prayer a few times, but even if we’re to revert to Islam, it would be as humanistic agnostic progressive lukewarm sort of Muslim. “Almost Muslim” would be a new denomination I think.
@CEOofmyhouse56 a “Almost Muslim” is an emerging new denomination indeed. I saw an episode of ‘insight’ on SBS where people identified as non-practising Muslim or cultural Muslim. I guess it is to be expected in liberal democracy that moderate and progressive beliefs are tolerated to some extent. The Sydney mardi-gras had a christian float recently. religion can and does change over time. The scientific calender etc.
I’m guessing a cultural Muslim means you pretend to practise for the sake of the family. That doesn’t make you a Muslim. Unless cultural Muslim means something else.
My husband was born a Muslim. He does not practise Islam nor does he identify as Islamic but he respects their beliefs.
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I guess the meaning of ‘Cultural Muslim’ depends on your intention. My wifes family are Cultural catholics which I understand to mean they are raised in the culture of catholicism with all its history, language and practise, but they are not church regulars.
Not my thing but I noticed these events get suggested pretty heavily on Facebook and Eventbrite. If the thing in Brunswick has a Facebook event all the suggested events should be pretty similar.
There are also these witchy markets on semi regularly, but they move around. There might be one on near you soon
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What do you think modern spirituality is? Philosophically, stoicism and buddhism have all the answers I need.
I’ve found a big part of the spirituality community is guru-type guys trying to spirituality their way into young girls pants and a bunch of women burned by said guru-guys. Eg, confest creeps, anyone ever met a guy who goes by Quoll?
I have ZERO time for reiki, tarot, psychics or anything to do with crystal energy. I think it’s nonsense and avoid getting to know “believers”. I’m not interested in debate with someone so off the deep end of reality, I feel they’re akin to flat-earthers.
These days the whole eat healthy food --> crunchy parents --> right-wing nutjob pathway seems very prevalent. Many of my loose bush doof friends have started talking about satanists taking over and the need to protect ourselves from the government. One mate called the whole Trump trail a false flag because Trump was going to reveal the truth about “how it all works”. The anti-government / right-wing view come thick and strong.
I’ve grown up Buddhist but have left the community, kind of felt like a loser magnet. I’m fine handling my relationship with the universe on my own terms. There’s no shortage of self-directed study material. I have zero belief in an afterlife.
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I think even they don’t know it themselves. The podcast “Conspirituality” is pretty good at investigating this stuff, from what I hear. I think it’s a distinctly post-Trump thing that went into overdrive with Covid. Distrusting the lockdown and vaccine measures opened up huge swathes to hardcore rightwing communities that were ready to suck them in and provide them with a sense of community in a time of crisis overriding rational thought (which was unfortunately the basis of many hippie groups in the first place tbh).
Not subscribing to identity politics is also a hard one with progressive circles as you mentioned.
Every “scene” has its downside tbh, especially if you have a difficult past and/or are not white. It’s an everyday task to rewire the brain to allow moments of belonging and areas of common ground to sink in, vs the sometimes disproportionate amount of attention given to the moments of not-belonging. Hard to not be hyper vigilant and to trust. Trying to seek a community in that frame of mind is difficult…
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You’d hate my mum hahahah! I do! 😂
I too would love to know what modern spirituality actually consists of. There are plenty of options on offer out there. My problem with what passes for modern ‘spirituality’ is that the people that do it can degenerate into candle-waving idiots very quickly. Ripe for exploitation by influencers and other profiteers. I very much distrust anything that requires me to buy something to be ‘spiritual’. I’m including christianity in this list, and it’s a long one.
I guess the operative word here is community - cos we all need at least one as we are pack/herd animals at a very basic level. Community is worth seeking out but comes in a lot of different flavours and uses a lot of different jargons. I’m all in favour of researching the topic personally, but would encourage you to keep your brain cells engaged while you do so. There will be other events like this expo - there are too many fools out there ready to spend their money on shit.
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Sensible. The open mindedness is a major benefit of the alternative mob. Sounds like a plan.
My mum is extremely spiritual, I grew up learning how to do tarot readings, which crystals have certain energies, aura readings, palm readings, etc.
I don’t believe any of it, all it did was exacerbate her schizophrenia lol.
There is a crystal shop on Sydney Rd now though, and I bought a small garnet because they’re pretty. My inner magpie loves crystals and stones. If you have a specific crystal in mind, I can have a look for you! Let me know!
I’d like something green to go with my big amethyst and citrine. Just a colour thing.
They have malachite, Moldavite, and serpentine, from memory. Ill pop down this week and see what they have in stock. I guess it depends what kind of green lol
blue carbon cubic
That’s fancy as! I don’t think they have that. Maybe a jewellery shop will. But I’ll check this week anyway; I tend to go for walks along Sydney Road so I’ll check :D
@Gibsonisafluffybutt @Seagoon_ I am vaguely Quaker. Humanistic agnostic and very moderate, but still believe the universe is a mystery. My wife is lapsed catholic and dabbles in psychic and magic practises.
Ahmadi, Sufi, Wahabi, Shiite, Sunni are all denominations of islam I believe. I heard the call to prayer a few times, but even if we’re to revert to Islam, it would be as humanistic agnostic progressive lukewarm sort of Muslim. “Almost Muslim” would be a new denomination I think.
“Almost Muslim”? You can’t be half pregnant mate.
@CEOofmyhouse56 a “Almost Muslim” is an emerging new denomination indeed. I saw an episode of ‘insight’ on SBS where people identified as non-practising Muslim or cultural Muslim. I guess it is to be expected in liberal democracy that moderate and progressive beliefs are tolerated to some extent. The Sydney mardi-gras had a christian float recently. religion can and does change over time. The scientific calender etc.
I’m guessing a cultural Muslim means you pretend to practise for the sake of the family. That doesn’t make you a Muslim. Unless cultural Muslim means something else.
My husband was born a Muslim. He does not practise Islam nor does he identify as Islamic but he respects their beliefs.
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I guess the meaning of ‘Cultural Muslim’ depends on your intention. My wifes family are Cultural catholics which I understand to mean they are raised in the culture of catholicism with all its history, language and practise, but they are not church regulars.
I see. I know a few Catholics like your wife her family. It was the “almost Muslim” that threw me because it’s not quite how that works.
I am glad that people are thinking outside the box in terms of religion.
Not my thing but I noticed these events get suggested pretty heavily on Facebook and Eventbrite. If the thing in Brunswick has a Facebook event all the suggested events should be pretty similar.
There are also these witchy markets on semi regularly, but they move around. There might be one on near you soon
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Living here has been amazing, couldn’t recommend it enough tbh.
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