Nato members have pledged their support for an “irreversible path” to future membership for Ukraine, as well as more aid.
While a formal timeline for it to join the military alliance was not agreed at a summit in Washington DC, the military alliance’s 32 members said they had “unwavering” support for Ukraine’s war effort.
Nato has also announced further integration with Ukraine’s military and members have committed €40bn ($43.3bn, £33.7bn) in aid in the next year, including F-16 fighter jets and air defence support.
The bloc’s Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said: “Support to Ukraine is not charity - it is in our own security interest.”
Sorry, but as Eastern European, we begged for NATO membership because of constant (>200 years) Russian occupation hazard. We only care about America as a strong ally (of many) in the NATO group, there is no imperialism, direct, indirect, effective or otherwise interprettable. It’s a purely defensive pact with all its tenets clearly and publicly laid out.
We could not fight back alone and we wouldnt be able to, because just as to Ukraine and as to Nazis, the amount of meat Russia (yes the whole country, not just Putin) is willing to throw into the meatgrinder is incomprehensible.
Russia might still have invaded without NATO provocation. However while Russia is evil, they do have a very valid point in not wanting NATO next to their border.
Especially since Russia’s NATO application got rejected.
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https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2022/2/pdf/220214-factsheet_NATO-Ukraine_Relations_.pdf
Also relevant is Zelensky staging a coup in Ukraine in 2014 to overthrow the Russian puppet regime that was in place at that time. Meaning Russia lost control over Ukraine politically.
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Actually NATO just rejected the Ukrainian application. Looks like we’re throwing more Ukrainians into the meat grinder and not fighting ourselves.
I guess wanting them in, and feeling that it’s appropriate to bring them in right now are two different things.
As they’ve said. They want them in. That’s not the same as thinking they should be in now.
I want to retire, but retiring right now is not appropriate.
First Ukraine didn’t apply. That was false.
Then Ukraine was joining NATO. That was false.
IDK nobody here seems interested in literal facts so let’s call it quits here.
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Russia didn’t just cause NATO membership for Ukraine, they’re the reason NATO was formed in the first place.
People should learn about WWII and the roots of these problems. Spend some time with the atrocities coming out of the USSR as they butchered and raped their way through peaceful countries in Europe.
Also, these sorts don’t seem to realize that NATO is on Russia’s border regardless of Ukraine’s status. Even before Russia invaded and Finland joined NATO.
They’ve never looked at a fucking map.
I mean… When they’re claiming russia applied to NATO and was rejected… What did you expect, a sound and reasonable mind? They’re literally just repeating their propaganda, nothing more.
Oh I know, but I’ve heard that particular lie about Russia not wanting NATO on their border being behind the invasion way too many times. NATO has literally been bordering Russia since its inception.
Yeah, fair. That’s the easiest, most obvious piece of propaganda to debunk ever. And they swallow it like it’s putin’s cum. Oh well… I hope they at least enjoy the taste.
Also with modern power projection…we don’t have to be on your border…
Because countries wanted to join the defensive pact…this isn’t even hard…