A Ukrainian Neo-Nazi soldier visited the Auschwitz death camp wearing a shirt quoting Hitler in order to mock the camp’s victims. This is the type of truly fascist scum that billions and billions of US taxpayer dollars are going to fund and arm.
A Ukrainian Neo-Nazi soldier visited the Auschwitz death camp wearing a shirt quoting Hitler in order to mock the camp’s victims. This is the type of truly fascist scum that billions and billions of US taxpayer dollars are going to fund and arm.
i like your coy avoidance. dude’s an open banderite. that’s a nazi. that’s what i mean when i say people like him.
so anyway, why did zelensky’s totally not a nazi government pick a blatant nazi to be one of their ambassadors? why was he not fired and buried in a pit when he displayed his naziness to the whole world? why was he just recalled and sent to another country to continue to be a nazi ambassador?
this doesnt sound like a country that’s on top of it’s supposedly tiny nazi minority. a country that lets them shell the donbass for years, seemingly unable or unwilling to stop them. a country that seems to always picks nazis (tattoos, patches) for its army PR pictures.
oh, and there’s this also to prove how tiny the nazi minority is in ukraine: 31% of them approve of bandera. 76% percent of those who live in western Ukraine have a positive opinion towards Bandera (https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7138).
Firsr, I skimmed the wikipedia article you linked and I couldn’t find anything in particular you were referring to, so it’s not avoidance, I am genuinely asking questions. Second, as you know, Banderism is a phenomenon which is much more complicated than just saying “Nazi”. It is linked with nationalism ans movements to get independent from what (from their perspective) was an occupier. It’s not so clear-cut as you are suggesting, where if you celebrate Bandera you are automatically a Nazi who supports Jew extermination and poles massacres.
Now, I don’t know if this guy is an actual Nazi or " just" a nationalist, or something else, or what his story is and why he is in the government, but being a Banderist doesn’t automatically translate to being a Nazi in the sense we give it in the west (oppression of minorities, antisemitism etc.).
So I guess I would challenge the foundation of your argument about the relationship between Bandera support and Nazism support. The more nationalists in Ukraine for sure see Bandera as a sort of “hero”, but mostly due to the impact on Ukraine liberation, not due to the (brief) alliance with Nazis (which was also opportunistic). I am sure you will disagree here, but history is complicated, and trust me, I have to overcome some of my own bias as an Italian, which means I have obviously a completely different perspective of WWII history. I simply can’t splash my own Western morality (based on our own shared history) on top of people and cultures that lived through a completely different history. So what you are saying to me sounds a complete simplification that disregards history and background for the population you are talking about.
I definitely do not agree with Ukraine handling the Donbass question. That said, I hardly think that letting them shell donbass has to do with supporting Nazi views and not simply supporting the general goal of taking back control of occupied regions (we can discuss about Russian influence\russian sponsored coup\self determination of the people another time, here I am simply capturing the perspective of the Ukrainian government - right or wrong).
it’s only nazism if it comes from the nazi region of germany, otherwise it’s just sparkling genocidal fascism. got it.
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