like I said in other comments, I’m not saying you should only try changing the system from within. voting doesn’t take a lot of time though, and I don’t see why you shouldn’t use the methods within the system to try to make it get shitty less quickly while ALSO trying to change the system in other ways. unless you’re an accelerationist I guess. I don’t see any harm in voting for the lesser evil as long as you don’t use it as an excuse to not also do other stuff. you can do both, and I’m worried that people that act like it’s either or might make things worse than they’re already going to be.
I do see harm in the system. I said I don’t see any harm in voting. you just conveniently took out the in voting part. not voting won’t make anything better.
it doesn’t change anything about those things, but it can change some other things. the only two viewpoints I can see from which voting is bad is either if you’re an accelerationist (in which case you should probably just vote for the side which you think is worse) or if you think that voting “legitimizes the system” and makes it stronger, somehow. though I’m not a fan of accelerationism and I don’t think that “the system” would care if all left leaning people just stopped voting. I definitely don’t think it would make anything better
The time and energy spent on voting and campaigning would be better spent planting gardens and building community yes. Then , AFTER you have a strong community, you can making voting easy in you area and coordinate yourselves as a larger voting bloc.
Once a critical mass of communities is organized enough to change an election, both right wings will pull the accelerationism lever as a hail mary. All the while blaming the communities organized enough to attempt protecting themselves.
At no point will the ruling class allow an election to change things.
when voting there’s only really two options. the giga evil and the mega evil. third party would be ideal but that’s basically the same as not voting at all in the current system.
Except it does if you’re black, poor, or otherwise marginalized and the only designated voting center in your county is deliberately choked up to take hours in a line to vote, all while a bunch of white hogs with guns are staring at you from the parking lot.
You are very fucking ignorant. Stop getting your political views from the shows you watch.
So, what’s your plan for reforming Nazi Germany from within? By the way, should we vote for Goebbels or Himmler?
like I said in other comments, I’m not saying you should only try changing the system from within. voting doesn’t take a lot of time though, and I don’t see why you shouldn’t use the methods within the system to try to make it get shitty less quickly while ALSO trying to change the system in other ways. unless you’re an accelerationist I guess. I don’t see any harm in voting for the lesser evil as long as you don’t use it as an excuse to not also do other stuff. you can do both, and I’m worried that people that act like it’s either or might make things worse than they’re already going to be.
“Voting doesnt take alot of time”
Did you see the part of the tweet where a whole extended family was killed? They’re doing a genocide
how does not voting change any of that?
So you do see the harm? Sorry, a bit confused on whether or not you think they deserve to live
I do see harm in the system. I said I don’t see any harm in voting. you just conveniently took out the in voting part. not voting won’t make anything better.
How does voting?
it doesn’t change anything about those things, but it can change some other things. the only two viewpoints I can see from which voting is bad is either if you’re an accelerationist (in which case you should probably just vote for the side which you think is worse) or if you think that voting “legitimizes the system” and makes it stronger, somehow. though I’m not a fan of accelerationism and I don’t think that “the system” would care if all left leaning people just stopped voting. I definitely don’t think it would make anything better
Let’s turn this around. There are two viewpoints from where voting is seen as good.
1: deccelerationists, they think their vote makes it less bad. Fools.
2: those who want to legitimize the system. Genocidal monsters.
The time and energy spent on voting and campaigning would be better spent planting gardens and building community yes. Then , AFTER you have a strong community, you can making voting easy in you area and coordinate yourselves as a larger voting bloc.
Once a critical mass of communities is organized enough to change an election, both right wings will pull the accelerationism lever as a hail mary. All the while blaming the communities organized enough to attempt protecting themselves. At no point will the ruling class allow an election to change things.
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But the system is set up in a way that all votes for third party get discarded.
yea that’s why you don’t vote third party
But you said vote for the lesser evil
when voting there’s only really two options. the giga evil and the mega evil. third party would be ideal but that’s basically the same as not voting at all in the current system.
No, there’s only one option if you don’t live in a swing state. Did you not pay attention in social studies or something?
What you are describing is not a democracy.
Then kill the system. Kill it with fire
kinda sounds like a fucking joke that only a chump would validate
Except it does if you’re black, poor, or otherwise marginalized and the only designated voting center in your county is deliberately choked up to take hours in a line to vote, all while a bunch of white hogs with guns are staring at you from the parking lot.
You are very fucking ignorant. Stop getting your political views from the shows you watch.