The first-person shooter genre used to be called Doom Clones because they were all viewed as rip offs of Doom (which, to be fair, many were). Genre conventions are created by copying what others have done. Souls is a game series, which has been so influential that it became a genre.
that’s the funny thing about genres and knock-offs, the only difference is scale. every game after pong is a knock-off of something that came before, and the great ones are the ones who purposefully or inadvertedly added something that made it a new standard for which to knock off, birthing a new genre. people hate terms like metroidvania or roguelike but imo those are the best genre names because they most clearly communicate the context and intent of the game
I have not deep dived into it, but I think it’s a treasured and well known story in China, and I assume a lot of Chinese people are proud of their mythology being a successful story outside of China as well.
Look, it’s a funny and ironic turn of events and my comment mainly tried to expand upon why this evokes this emotional response from some people.
Also, I don’t think most Americans identify with the shady practices of corporations either, so equating a undoubtedly shady history on copyright with the stance of all Chinese people everywhere is a bit… 🤔
As others have mentioned it’s also not accidental that the outrage is at the Nintendo store specifically. There is a lot of bad blood between the Chinese and the Japanese.
Chill, where did you get that I was ‘equating the stance of al chinese people’? Even the title mentions ‘China internet’… it’s like saying “France is in uproar at latest Macron speech”.
I know it’s funny and ironic, that’s why I pointed out that they’re upset at the alleged copying of an non-original game concept about a myth that’s been already featured in a ton of other works.
I may be wrong but Wukong itself looks a Souls knock-off, so I don’t see the problem.
souls is a genre tho
The first-person shooter genre used to be called Doom Clones because they were all viewed as rip offs of Doom (which, to be fair, many were). Genre conventions are created by copying what others have done. Souls is a game series, which has been so influential that it became a genre.
that’s the funny thing about genres and knock-offs, the only difference is scale. every game after pong is a knock-off of something that came before, and the great ones are the ones who purposefully or inadvertedly added something that made it a new standard for which to knock off, birthing a new genre. people hate terms like metroidvania or roguelike but imo those are the best genre names because they most clearly communicate the context and intent of the game
Bah! Pong is just a knock-off of Tennis for Two!
i’ve even heard rumors that tennis for two is a knockoff of a sport called “tennis” although this has yet to be proved conclusively
Finally a fellow connoisseur of the true classics!
I think the cultural theme of the game is more reason for the “anger” than the gameplay formula.
Its based on the most famous Chinese mythological story / fairytale about the Monkey King Wukong.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_King
I have not deep dived into it, but I think it’s a treasured and well known story in China, and I assume a lot of Chinese people are proud of their mythology being a successful story outside of China as well.
deep dove? deep doven?
西游记
Also it’s what Dragon Ball is based on and it’s a primary influence for most if not all Shonen anime.
Its like getting upset when two different projects are made based on the Greek Pantheon.
This. Also, China upset cause they’re being copied? Pfft.
Look, it’s a funny and ironic turn of events and my comment mainly tried to expand upon why this evokes this emotional response from some people.
Also, I don’t think most Americans identify with the shady practices of corporations either, so equating a undoubtedly shady history on copyright with the stance of all Chinese people everywhere is a bit… 🤔
As others have mentioned it’s also not accidental that the outrage is at the Nintendo store specifically. There is a lot of bad blood between the Chinese and the Japanese.
Chill, where did you get that I was ‘equating the stance of al chinese people’? Even the title mentions ‘China internet’… it’s like saying “France is in uproar at latest Macron speech”. I know it’s funny and ironic, that’s why I pointed out that they’re upset at the alleged copying of an non-original game concept about a myth that’s been already featured in a ton of other works.
I am chill. :) No need for either of us to read spite into the others comments. Text is bad at communicating tone :)
I guess my comment was meant more in general, not at you specifically (though I understand it being in a reply of course feels that way)
I am sorry my comment came of as hostile or combative
And I love how much of it is fart jokes
Just like Dragon Ball is based on that myth, no?
“Folktale” is a better description but I agree
Yea, better word indeed :)