Tipping ‘nudges’ are now popping up on DoorDash. If you don’t leave a gratuity, you’ll hear about it.::DoorDash is the latest delivery service to nudge customers who don’t tip. It shows how intrusive tip requests are, and how important tips are to gig workers.

  • @[email protected]
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    1762 years ago

    I’m far from a cheap tipper, but the way tipping culture has evolved in North America is ridiculous.

    • Freeman
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      412 years ago

      I have traditionally been a good tipper. Often others will mention it.

      But the recent changes have me turned into a mister pink in a lot of cases.

      Anything take out or not full service I just hit no now. Also the round up for some random cause, I found companies only have to donate like 10% of those to stay in the clear.

      Also in the few instances I’m getting take out type shit like pizza and hit “no” and they made a comment. I no longer go there.

      • @[email protected]
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        282 years ago

        I stick with the tipping habits I grew up with.

        • If I’m getting table service at a restaurant, I tip the waitstaff.

        • If I’m getting food delivered, I tip the delivery person.

        • I tip taxi drivers.

        • I tip bartenders. I’m honestly not sure how to tip bartenders these days though, because it used to be “$1 per drink”, which seemed quite generous when drinks were less than $5. Now a single drink might be $12. Am I really supposed to tip 20% on that?

        If I’m walking up to a counter and getting takeout or fast food, I’m not tipping. That’s nutty. Nobody would even consider that if they didn’t use these customer-facing tablets everywhere nowadays.

        Sometimes I’ll toss a buck in the tip jar at my favorite coffee shop or pizzeria, but it’s not a percentage thing.

        I’ve always known old people to be shitty tippers. Maybe I’m on my way to becoming one of them now, failing to keep up with social norms. But I really don’t think this is the norm, and I don’t want it to become the norm.

        • @[email protected]
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          72 years ago

          Are you also supposed to tip valet? And does anyone know what the normal tip for that should be?

        • bmoney
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          62 years ago

          i maintain 1 dollar per drink with bars and coffee shops

        • Freeman
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          122 years ago

          Yeah I’m mostly at the same. But coffee shops and pizza shacks etc have gotten to be the worst on the tipping thing, and being vocal about it.

          I guess I’m just old now. But even at restaurants we have stopped going in the last year because the level of dgaf is through the roof and the service is shit, burgers are 17 bucks and it’s just not enjoyable. One of our favorite pizza places is like that. Get the waiter that is AirPods in, asking you to repeat your order, fucking up the order, forgetting shit or even to fire an entire part of the parties order, and the ordeal taking 2 hours.

          • @[email protected]
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            32 years ago

            I worked at a coffee shop and 40% of my wage was tips. I wouldn’t be able to afford to live otherwkse. Please tip your barista.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          I just stopped eating out. It’s gotten ridiculous, it’s cheaper and healthier to just cook yourself

        • Neuromancer
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          52 years ago

          Often I’ll sit at the bar and eat. So I tip 20%.

          Even if I’m just drinking I’ll tip 20%. It use to be a dollar a drink but I’m not going to fret over the 5p cents more

      • @[email protected]
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        2 years ago

        This completly. Don’t include a delivery fee and service charge and then have the audacity to guilt trip me into adding tip. That type of bs just makes me boycott a place or service. Pay your employees a fair wage.

        • Neuromancer
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          92 years ago

          They’re not employees. That’s how the scam works for most delivery services. They’re independent contractors

        • @[email protected]
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          232 years ago

          It guilt-trips the customer into paying, but it also makes the employee look like a slave, where the customer can choose not to pay them if they don’t feel they deserve it.

          It’s all in all just a fucked up system.

    • Neuromancer
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      82 years ago

      I tip 10% for delivery. They’re just dropping my food off. Sit in dining 20% for average service.

      The tipping culture has become insane. Historically it was a dollar or two for delivery.

        • Neuromancer
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          42 years ago

          I don’t understand that one at all. Maybe a dollar or two but not 20%

          • @[email protected]
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            82 years ago

            Some friends and I ordered 5 pizzas the other day, so our total was going to be about $100. I was going to pick it up and asked what everyone thought I should tip. Several of the people said 20%, but I was God damned if I was gonna pay someone $20 for me to pick up pizza from them.

            • @[email protected]
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              122 years ago

              I remain confused about what you are tipping for at all for pickup orders? I assume you are under 30? Does purchasing food just equal tip, period? Is it totally detached from a service element and just a kind of bizarre tax for young Americans?

              • @[email protected]
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                12 years ago

                I am over 40. The person who suggested over 20% is over 50. So it’s not just a young person thing.

            • Neuromancer
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              It use to be a dollar or two per pizza. That was the going rate. Now they expect 20%. Delivery use to be free for pizza.

              ETA: noticed you said picked up. That use to be free

          • @[email protected]
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            82 years ago

            Why tip anything if you are picking up? There is no service. Where do you think that money goes?

            • Neuromancer
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              22 years ago

              It goes to the waitress. Normally I give it out of guilt. During Covid I gave because they were losing tips.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            Curious why a dollar or two? Do you just generally feel that food is underpriced? Is there a scenario where you would just pay the asked price?

              • @[email protected]
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                12 years ago

                It just sounds like a strange American tax that is paid for food. The problem of tipping is getting worse. Why pay extra for the basic level of food preparation with no additional services rendered? In what scenario would you not pay extra? Why has this become like this for food but not flowers for example?

                • Neuromancer
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                  12 years ago

                  Ah. In America we have what’s called tipped workers.

                  Depending on your state, they can be paid as low at 2.13 an hour plus tips. In Oregon they’re paid minimum wage plus tips.

                  Historically only certain jobs were tipped and services.

                  To go food was not tipped but now we are guilted into tipping. Historically we didn’t tip quick service workers such as McDonald’s or Starbucks.

                  Now every place is adding a tip.

                  In what scenario would I not tip? Normally at a Starbucks or some place I’m not served but if I’m feeling generous I will.

                  I’ve tipped working 100-200% on the occasion before.

                  Flowers typically are not tipped because the person receiving them wouldn’t tip.

                  It’s a weird American things with tips. The problem is a good tipped worker doesn’t want it to end. I’ve know people waitresses who make six figures working in Vegas.

                  Personally I’d like them to get paid a living wage and make a small tip the norm.

                  Right now I don’t like paying double for my food and they expect a large tip as well. Right now many places are adding a living wage % on the bill. It’s normally 20% then they want a 20% tip.

                  I

    • @[email protected]
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      162 years ago

      I tip less and less the more they complain about it. I don’t even tip at those register prompts at all anymore. Conservatives keep talking about how raising wages will increase prices but they have no answer about why prices are going up anyway even without raising wages.

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        Conservatives keep talking about how raising wages will increase prices but they have no answer about why prices are going up anyway even without raising wages.

        Wages are only one of the drivers of cost.

    • @[email protected]
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      282 years ago

      I wasn’t a cheap tipper before, but I’m rapidly moving in that direction as tip culture spirals out of control.

      My guilt-o-meter is getting desensitized out of necessity and soon I’ll be a cheap or non-tipper and feel no remorse.

      • @[email protected]
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        62 years ago

        I’m in this same boat. I used to tip 30% or more depending on multiple factors. Now some restaurants add a forced tip, of 10-20%, and all they’ll get from me because they just set their own tip instead of just increasing their prices. Apps who cannot get their service employees (which they really are) to follow the most basic of instructions then have the gall to demand tips up front, instead of paying people enough to give a fuck, have me tipping zero as often as not if not most of the time.

      • @[email protected]
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        132 years ago

        This is happening to me right now, too. And it feels shitty because I know the servers aren’t asking for this.

        But you hit it on the head. My guilt levels are rapidly diminishing over time because I am just bombarded with requests for tips in every scenario no matter how ridiculous. My internal threshold for when a tip is merited has been steadily going up as I’m forced to sit and think about it during what feels like over half of transactions I make.