• Tb0n3
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    153 months ago

    You can agree with the justice of what he did, but Luigi did, in fact, commit 1st degree murder. That’s a crime.

      • Tb0n3
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        13 months ago

        Sounds like a delusional belief to me.

        • @[email protected]
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          13 months ago

          I mean… if you are asking me based on the evidence I have seen… yeah.

          On the other hand, if I lived in new york, and were selected as a Jury… I’d say the evidence is not compelling.

      • Tb0n3
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        33 months ago

        I am not a court. I don’t have to have a trial to believe in somebody’s guilt. According to the evidence I have seen it appears he shot a man to death.

        • @[email protected]
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          203 months ago

          They are, by law, innocent until proven guilty. The “evidence” you have seen is certainly not all the evidence, and your beliefs have been swayed before defense can make an argument.

          I sure as hell hope you never serve on a jury.

          • Tb0n3
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            33 months ago

            I am not representing the law. I am representing my own opinion. I am not a judge or a jury member.

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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          43 months ago

          He shot a man to death who killed thousands. He’s a vigilante if anything.

          • @[email protected]
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            33 months ago

            He still commited a crime which makes him a criminal which is just a fact and has nothing to do with the crime being justified

            • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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              83 months ago

              What makes someone “criminal” as a quality? Breaking the law? Killing people? Are all health insurance workers criminals too?

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                3 months ago

                Commiting a crime makes you a criminal, so if you break a law you are a criminal. And if the decisions of health insurance workers are also breaking laws they are criminals too.

                • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝
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                  63 months ago

                  Then if you have ever gone faster than the speed limit, you are a criminal. That makes most people in the developed world criminals.

                  That aside, the point is that naming someone a criminal has moralistic baggage, and by saying that anyone that breaks laws is a criminal thus immoral, you imply all laws are inherently moral.

              • @[email protected]
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                23 months ago

                I mean, the word criminal basically means law breaker.

                Now as many laws are unjust and many horrific actions are protected by the law.

                Just like at one point in time… a futitive slave, would be by definition a criminal, and his owner by definition not a criminal.

                Again, the whole concept is noting that it’s about the definition of the word criminal… and that criminal does not have to do with morality… only in concurance with the laws of the land it is taking place in.