• @[email protected]
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    Zero context. The first 3 could be peek traffic hours on a day with high heat and no wind. And the fourth a Sunday during some national event that people watched on TV, while a storm blows away most of the pollution.
    Or they could be completely fake, as there is no source stated.

    A complete lack of context it’s a pretty worthless, very low effort post IMO.

    Edit:
    Thanks for the downvotes, because linking the source would have been Soooo difficult. /s

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      The french text says it is average levels over a full year. Also, the source is listed in the image.

    • @[email protected]
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      123 months ago

      That do be true tbh, however, Paris have been, at least in the past few years, quite invested in fighting cars, so I’m inclined to think that this graphic is true.

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      Reading the annotations on each of the plots, these are all average NOx concentrations of the labelled year, not point measurements - as you are insinuating. Furthermore, the color scales match up too. (edit) Do note: the more recent plot is zoomed in though and scales are much less clear!

      I think it is fair to say that recent policy changes, like rejecting private vehicles from the center and promoting active transportation work. Though aftereffects of COVID (work-from-home) may be a contributor too.

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        There were also the Olympics, and the French put in a lot of effort to make Paris as appealing as possible.

        • @[email protected]
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          We’re looking at 15 years of data encapsulated in 4 annual averages. If they put in that kind of effort for the sake of the Olympics, well, good on them for playing the long game.

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        Since the graphic measures NOx emissions, this is mostly about diesel vehicles, older than Euro 5 or Euro 6 specifically. Also, while researching this I found out that starting this month, all diesel vehicles are banned in Paris.

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        Reading the annotations on each of the plots

        Yeah about that, the text is incredibly smeared, and it’s in french. Pardon me for not knowing french. 😜

        not point measurements - as you are insinuating.

        Which would have been about equally obvious to many if the text was in Swahili!! No matter how clear.

        Funny how people reward such lazy posting, where adding a link to the source could have cleared it up easy.
        Pictures could be completely fake for all we know without a source.

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          73 months ago

          While not understanding French is understandable, Google Translate and other tools can help with that nowadays. You ought to be careful when levying critique on a post, and ensure it is valid. Your mistake was noticed by me in this case, but this could very well be the misinformation against which you caution.

          Regarding the laziness in sourcing: I agree that sourcing is not properly provided here. A reverse image search surfaces that many of the plots are available here and refers to the source also stated on the image (Apur), which seems to be an entity with regularly does analyses regarding mobility in Paris, which has analysed these topics before. Whether you trust this source is still up to you, but the source is not simply an anonymous person on the internet.

          • @[email protected]
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            So what you say is, that I should put A LOT OF EFFORT into figuring out the validity, because OP put ZERO EFFORT into it, and just research the entire thing myself? Typing manually what OP could have just copy-pasted. That’s INSANE!

            If OP want’s to show something, and maybe make a point, why not include the link where he got the picture from? It’s a simple copy-paste! It’s insane that people find this to be OK, when it’s basically not much more than noise without the source.

            • @[email protected]
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              73 months ago

              If you don’t want to spend the time, you could have simply critiqued the image for being hard to read and interpret, as you are doing now - and requested they provide the source of the image (or the data). That would have been perfectly valid - as this image has seemingly gone through a lot of jpeg-ification and screeshotting, making captions and labels hard to read.

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                Yeah I could, I guess I was a bit annoyed by the laziness of the post.
                And I maintain it’s bad style to not include a simple link to where “he” got the photo.
                As someone else mentioned, that’s how fake news are often spread.

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          I agree with your basic point, about not automatically trusting sources.

    • @[email protected]
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      You couldve just asked for the source. The downvotes arent for you doubting the data which is definitely legit legit point to make, but for you being an ass about it.

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      53 months ago

      We should be doing a wellness check. Clearly the French have stopped smoking. And knowing the French get revolution-y when agitated: … should we be concerned?