Eh unless they have the most efficient overall, they won’t make inroads into the server market. The entry level laptop and desktop markets are getting smaller and has less margins.
And as for margins, well the exact information is a bit hard to find but in general lower end products have tighter margins and the buyers for them are more price sensitive.
Oh sorry, yeah that was directed towards the comment that the desktop market is getting smaller. I’ve heard that “the desktop computer is dead” for over two decades now, so that wiki page is quite interesting.
I’d love to see the 2024 number once it gets published, because the 2020/1 numbers are such an anomalies from COVID that it’s hard to tell if the market’s actually shrinking or just stabilizing.
iGPUs do not “suck ass.” They’re built for purpose and fulfill that purpose quite well.
If you’re gaming, you’re better off buying a used dGPU made by AMD or Nvidia than a new GPU made by intel. I legitimately pity the fool who is buying an intel dGPU for gaming over used or new options from the other two.
But hey, I guess people like you need to feel different somehow so that’s what the market is there for.
With handheld PCs’ resurgence, iGPUs are getting recognition. With my handheld PC, I can easily play most PC games, barring the latest AAA games, on it. It has basically transformed the way I play video games, and it is powered by a 12 CU RDNA 3 iGPU. I was blown away when it could play 2010s games at ultra settings, 1080p, 60 fps with just a 10-watt configured TDP.
Especially the latest Ryzen HX395. It’s an APU with a 40 CU RDNA iGPU. I think the current development is going on that direction.
I’ve personally seen on at least 5 different Intel models on store shelves. The A380, A580 and the A750. Now the B580 and B570. The A380 stuck around but the others sold out fast from what I saw.
And though they aren’t nearly as large as the two giants, they seem to be aiming for and pleasing the under-served sub-$250 market. Though I wish they’d publish more official numbers. A 6 day slice from a retailer isn’t a great view on trends.
aiming for and pleasing the under-served sub-$250 market.
It’s already served by iGPUs and used dGPUs.
I shudder to think of the poor soul that is so clueless and not-actually-frugal that they look at their needs and say an intel dGPU is the best choice.
I appreciate him doing this after intel lost their magic, otherwise, it would have been much harder emotionally.
They lost it in CPUs, but I think they’re actually nailing it in GPUs though (for once(at least for the budget/entry level))
Eh unless they have the most efficient overall, they won’t make inroads into the server market. The entry level laptop and desktop markets are getting smaller and has less margins.
Any source you can cite?
Do you mean the efficiency question? I’m just deducing if they were competitive in servers Intel would jump at that opportunity.
As for the PC market, just looking at unit sales: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_share_of_personal_computer_vendors
And as for margins, well the exact information is a bit hard to find but in general lower end products have tighter margins and the buyers for them are more price sensitive.
Oh sorry, yeah that was directed towards the comment that the desktop market is getting smaller. I’ve heard that “the desktop computer is dead” for over two decades now, so that wiki page is quite interesting.
I’d love to see the 2024 number once it gets published, because the 2020/1 numbers are such an anomalies from COVID that it’s hard to tell if the market’s actually shrinking or just stabilizing.
It likely will stabilize, but it might become more of an enthusiast market. People don’t necessarily need a PC anymore.
Shit nobody cares about because we have iGPUs for that purpose.
iGPUs suck ass, better than they’ve been in the past, but for gaming they’re still just what you use while you wait to get a dGPU
iGPUs do not “suck ass.” They’re built for purpose and fulfill that purpose quite well.
If you’re gaming, you’re better off buying a used dGPU made by AMD or Nvidia than a new GPU made by intel. I legitimately pity the fool who is buying an intel dGPU for gaming over used or new options from the other two.
But hey, I guess people like you need to feel different somehow so that’s what the market is there for.
With handheld PCs’ resurgence, iGPUs are getting recognition. With my handheld PC, I can easily play most PC games, barring the latest AAA games, on it. It has basically transformed the way I play video games, and it is powered by a 12 CU RDNA 3 iGPU. I was blown away when it could play 2010s games at ultra settings, 1080p, 60 fps with just a 10-watt configured TDP.
Especially the latest Ryzen HX395. It’s an APU with a 40 CU RDNA iGPU. I think the current development is going on that direction.
For handhelds, a 720p resolution is very adequate, but not for a 27" Monitor
They have what, 2 models? And in the GPU market, they aren’t even a pimple on the fly on the ass of nVidia or AMD
I’ve personally seen on at least 5 different Intel models on store shelves. The A380, A580 and the A750. Now the B580 and B570. The A380 stuck around but the others sold out fast from what I saw.
And though they aren’t nearly as large as the two giants, they seem to be aiming for and pleasing the under-served sub-$250 market. Though I wish they’d publish more official numbers. A 6 day slice from a retailer isn’t a great view on trends.
It’s already served by iGPUs and used dGPUs.
I shudder to think of the poor soul that is so clueless and not-actually-frugal that they look at their needs and say an intel dGPU is the best choice.
Issue is, Intel controls the x86 architecture which is in almost all desktop PCs…