During negotiations with the DNC and the Harris campaign, we were repeatedly told by interlocutors that Harris couldn’t meet any of our basic requests (a policy shift from Biden, a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, a statement distinguishing herself from Trump on Israel, or even a meeting with Michigan families who lost loved ones to Israeli bombs) because of AIPAC-aligned politicians like Fetterman, who might take to TV, rile up suburban white and Jewish voters, and fracture the party’s coalition in a swing state.

That political calculus alienated a key voting bloc, although likely not large enough to have shifted the ultimate election outcomes, that should be part of a durable Democratic majority. But few will ever be held accountable for that choice.

A Fetterman staffer condemning Uncommitted for not advocating for Palestinians ‘the right way’ is like an arsonist scolding the fire department for using the wrong hose.

Source

  • @[email protected]OP
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    So Harris said the same thing as Biden said… while Biden and Harris were complicit in genocide. And this changes anything about the post… How exactly?

    Did Harris say no bombs? Did Harris draw red lines? Did Harris to concede any of the demands in the post you are trying to strawman?

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      stop moving the goalposts. The subject was a statement distinguishing herself from Trump on Israel

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        Trump made an equivalent call for peace, while promising he would not impede the flow of weapons, same as Harris.

      • @[email protected]
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        It’s not moving goal posts. What she said isn’t credible because her own actions betray it. Politicians will say anything to get elected and LIE.

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          What control does the vice president have on spending by the military?

          I eagerly await your comment.

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            Given Biden’s proven medical incompetence, likely total. ‘Biden’ provided funding to Israel without congressional approval multiple times.

              • @[email protected]
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                It’s a complete answer, it’s not the one you tried to bait out, but it’s a complete answer and it’s correct. You can be mad at yourself for not laying a good enough trap to get what you want, or simply for trying to defend one of the worst human beings in one of the worst political parties in the world; but you can’t be mad at getting a correct answer.

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                  I dont accept right-wing propaganda as an answer.

                  Just tell me you dont understand what the office of vice president does and move on. Geez.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    I’m sorry you think reality in this case is right wing or propaganda. I hope you get better soon. Being a simp for a dead right wing party that has only realistically caused mass suffering is a terrible thing.

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            Executive branch is the one that declares war. They could of put a stop to the arms policy but didn’t. Useless democrat simp, blaming voters instead of awful policy from politicians.

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                Right, and they didn’t. The executive branch has been rogue since 9/11.

                All of our “wars” are just “special military operations” without congressional approval. The executive branch just goes around congress.

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        No the statement was Harris distinguising herself from Biden. You have inserted a strawman.

        Furthermore you are lying because Trump also promised empty words about peace for Palestinians. Trump even invited Palestinians on stage. Something Harris refused.

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          What? Look at the quoted tweet. It says

          a statement distinguishing herself from Trump on Israel

          And you’re calling me a liar? Lol

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            I will concede that point. I read the first line about “policy shift from Biden”. Conveniently you did not address that

            Even a distinguishment from Trump on Israel has not happened from Harris either.

            Trump promised unconditional support for Israel. Harris promised unconditional support for Israel.

            Now I will call you out on your statement. This article debunks your selective statement usage of Trump.

            They have to get it done. Get it over with and get it over with fast because we have to — you have to get back to normalcy and peace.”

            “I’m not sure that I’m loving the way they’re doing it, because you’ve got to have victory. You have to have a victory, and it’s taking a long time,” he said.

            He said Israel is “absolutely losing the PR war” from the video coming out of Gaza.

            “They’re releasing the most heinous, most horrible tapes of buildings falling down. And people are imagining there’s a lot of people in those buildings, or people in those buildings, and they don’t like it,” he said. “They’re losing the PR war. They’re losing it big. But they’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”

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              Nah, I’m out. You’re obviously not conversing in good faith.