It is illegal and immoral. It steals the rightful intellectual property of directors and developers who are only trying to make a living. If you want to be a thief so badly, then rob a federal bank.

    • PM_me_your_vagina_thanks
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      22 years ago

      If I download something that I never would have paid for anyway, either because I just wouldn’t pay for that product, or because I literally cannot pay for that product, who has lost out? I haven’t deprived anyone of anything. It’s not like I’ve taken a physical thing away from them.

        • PM_me_your_vagina_thanks
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          22 years ago

          How? I was never going to give them money. Digital files are not a finite resource. How have I deprived them of anything?

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          What about a game or movie you’ve already bought? Are you morality allowed to copy it for your own use in your system?

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        12 years ago

        Ok but then you create a production problem.

        You download it, but that piece of media still had a cost of production. If you don’t pay for it then the producers must find other monetization methods.

        It’s one of the reasons the modern web is based off ads, or why free-to-play with microtransanction is so common.

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          22 years ago

          I’m not suggesting that I do this for everything, or that everyone should do it constantly. For example, I bought Baldur’s Gate 3 on release, as it seemed worth it. But Ubisoft’s latest shitfest? Probably might be worth a pirate, see if I enjoy it. If I do really enjoy it, I might buy the game. Or I might not, since Ubisoft are a bunch of utter cunts.

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            Probably might be worth a pirate

            But here comes a problem of fairness.

            You not only want to play the game, you also want to decide how much is worthed for the producer. If the price is too high, don’t play it. Imagine going to a restaurant and saying “sure, cook for me, I’ll later pay you if and how much I think it will worthed”

            Not only this but:

            Or I might not, since Ubisoft are a bunch of utter cunts.

            Because you acknowledge the damaging nature of piracy, not only that, you also decide that rules are applied arbitrarily, which is a terrible thing to base your system on.

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      62 years ago

      Not really, there is no property loss. Nothing was taken. That’s like saying taking a picture of a piece of art is stealing.