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      The stick was actually running a soft right democrat to combat a far right candidate, the gag is blaming voters.

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        The stick was not seeing (or even acknowledging the existence of) the bigger picture.

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          Well, the bigger picture in my comment is that the Democratic party will rip their nose off if it means not running a progressive candidate willing to stand firm in their progressive stances, and that choice between a soft right candidate and a far right candidate is like choosing between a piece of chocolate or the whole bar. What bigger picture are you referring to?

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            [Gestures vaguely at goddamned everything] for starters.

            She might not give us all ponies and blowjobs, but literally none of this dystopian nightmare would be happening under Harris.

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              Sure. But that’s not going to change the fact that she fucking lost because she was a terrible candidate for Trump and ran a Republican campaign. The voters are not responsible when both parties coronate their candidate in back rooms.

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                Yes the voters are responsible!

                It’s called making the most intelligent choice, seeing the bigger picture, and doing harm reduction. I am beyond sick of the blame shifting being done to justify people not taking this election seriously .

                The threat of Trump 2.0 was apparent and not even remotely a secret. if people didn’t see that or take that seriously, it is their fault.

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                  Voters carry blame, but that does not make them responsible. The responsibility lies with the political parties.

                  • Admiral Patrick
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                    Yes, the 2-party system sucks, but it is the system we have. No amount of whining or wishful thinking was going to change that.

                    There were two choices: Status Quo (but not fascism) and Speedrun to Fascism.

                    “Not Trump” was not a candidate. If voters couldn’t suck it up and vote for the only viable non-fascism candidate, then it is their fault and they are responsible.

                    I’m done with this debate since you seem to want to blame everyone but the people who didn’t do their part.

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      Oh my God shut the fuck up unless fewer people voted Dem in swing states… which they didn’t. Stop refusing to address your addiction to moderation.

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      Harris actually got more votes than Biden in most of the key swing states. Can we stop this narrative of blaming anyone other than the tens of millions that actually picked Trump?