• @[email protected]
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    4 months ago

    I wish he would’ve negotiated an end to this while Ukraine still had some leverage.

    Ukraine doesn’t want to give up land, and isn’t willing to tolerate not having security guarantees. Russia is convinced that it can ultimately militarily prevail.

    Wars end when one side is either unable to continue or the two sides moderate their demands to some kind of meeting point. What’s the Biden administration going to do?

    The US isn’t willing to go to war on the matter, so compelling Russia militarily probably isn’t an option. The US could have withdrawn military support for Ukraine, but I don’t think that that’s what you want. There’s more sanctions, but we’ve already got a lot of sanctions in place, and you want a rapid resolution.

    Maybe we could have dramatically ramped up aid for Ukraine, as long as Ukraine could have made use of it. The US is probably willing to do that to some degree, as long as it doesn’t compromise its position relative to China. But will that substantively change the situation? Like, if you’re Putin, you’ve probably got a pretty good incentive to try to stick it out, if you feel that Biden and Trump are going to have much of a difference in position.

    • ThePowerOfGeek
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      134 months ago

      And Russia has zero interest in working with Biden. Because they knew that between their election interference, their US-based puppets, and general voter dissatisfaction with Biden (and Harris), all they had to do was wait it out to get a much more favorable administration who will acquiesce to their demands.

      • Andy
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        24 months ago

        No: because that assumes that Putin knew Trump was going to win.

        Both sides knew that the outcome of a coin flip election could make or break the terms of any future agreement, so Putin had no way to confidently know that a negotiation in 2025 would yield better terms than 2024.

        I mean, it’s all hypothetical. Maybe Putin would rather go for broke, because he’s insane and an evil asshole. Maybe he’d rather die blowing up the whole world than every accept a stalemate. But the theory that there was no room to negotiate is preposterous.

        I can definitely say in this moment, though, that Biden’s refusal to even discuss negotiating a ceasefire was certainly a massive, costly mistake.

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      4 months ago

      This is uncomfortable to say, but the US President has pretty much unconstrained authority to control the diplomatic matters of most of our allies. It’s not unlimited, but it’s obviously enough that the President of the United States can – if they choose to – simply dictate the end of a proxy war. I think this is really more obvious common sense than some fringe theory, but for any skeptics, Trump demonstrated this by commanding Benjamin Netanyahu to accept a ceasefire deal he hated that Biden had ostensibly been trying to secure for about 7 months. The only difference between Biden’s seven months and Trump’s seven days was that Trump didn’t ask. He just dictated what was going to happen.

      That is… horrible. It’s not a basis for international relations or peace or sovereignty or respect for allies…

      But it is a frank demonstration that Biden could end the war in Ukraine at pretty much any time. Any month of the year that suited him, he could’ve picked up the phones and said it was time to strike a deal.

      He couldn’t end it on the terms of his choosing! The terms would’ve sucked at all points, but negotiated settlement was always an option. And at any point if he’d done that, I can guarantee you that Ukraine would’ve gotten a better “deal” than what whatever is going to be imposed on them by Trump & Putin.