• Zloubida
        9•2 months ago

        I don’t think atheism is central to anarchism. Opposition to religion (in its institutional and hierarchical form) is, but not belief in a higher being per se.

        Anarchism can make Christianity non-authoritarian, and Christianity can teach anarchism how to be spiritual. Of course nor anarchism nor Christianity need each other, but I like how they complete each other.

        • @[email protected]English
          5•2 months ago

          There have been Christian anarchists. Jacques Ellul comes to mind. His book on propaganda is pretty good.

          • Zloubida
            3•2 months ago

            Yeah I like him, even if he had bad stances on some subjects (like Israel or abortion). He’s too much on the evangelical side to me, even if he was not an actual evangelical. But was right on sooooo much subjects!

            • @[email protected]English
              1•2 months ago

              I never got in to deep on his personal stances on certain issues, I thought the book propaganda was good though. I think lots of thinkers of his time had bad stances on Isreal though.

        • @[email protected]
          3•2 months ago

          You can certainly hamfist Christianity into supporting whatever political opinion you want, as is Christian tradition.

          Generally I don’t like supernatural beliefs and the idea of a god makes me throw up but you do you.

          • Zloubida
            3•2 months ago

            Please ignore me if you think my question is uncalled-for, but your answer surprises me. I get agnosticism and atheism from a philosophical point of view, even if philosophically I stand in the theist side. I get the feeling of disgust when one studies history and actuality of religions, even if I think it’s kind of a limited, one-sided view. But disgust for the mere idea of the existence of God seems… a bit extreme. What did you mean?

            • @[email protected]
              3•2 months ago

              If there is a god it’s malevolent or indifference to humanity.

              Either way it’s not worth worshipping.

              Plus as I mentioned before, I hate supernatural thinking, and I find it harder to trust in people who base their beliefs on the supernatural.

              You never know when some random piece of scripture short circuits the brain of an otherwise reasonable person into thinking abortion is evil or that LGBT people are the antichrist.