Maybe I’m missing something if the “attacks” in question are water balloons or whatever. I assumed, possibly incorrectly, that something more severe was implied by that word. Like arson, or similar.
I mean, if someone was to burn a dealership down, that would be rather similar. I assumed a certain severity of attack, because that word implies a degree of violence to me. I may be wrong there. I don’t think graffiti could ever be accurately described as an attack, for example.
Is it though? Terrorism is the use of violence to achieve a political goal by creating fear in a population. The people who are targeting Tesla dealerships aren’t directing their message to the general population, they’re directing it to one Nazi in particular.
Yes that’s by definition domestic terrorism, Elon is part of government and even if he weren’t so long as the fires and such are intended to raise awareness by fear or loss of profit it would still be by definition domestic terrorism.
For reference according to the FBI since 1982:
The FBI defines terrorism, domestic or international, as the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government or civilian population in furtherance of political or social objectives.
Exactly. They aren’t even attempting to scare Tesla customers themselves. It’s all about tarnishing Musk’s image, sending a message, and damaging his cashcow.
Yeah the issue is somehow white nationalist mows down a mall = troubled teen, liberal (re: minority because nuance and reality are things they struggle to grasp) attacks on private property resulting in zero death or major injury = domestic terrorism.
Iirc they didn’t even label the assassination attempt as domestic terrorism.
Yes that’s what the other person is saying. It is clearly domestic terrorism but because the left in large part feel it to be a moral action that it isn’t domestic terrorism and that’s just wildly idiotic. Almost to a person terrorists believe themselves to be doing something morally correct while also being intentionally morally abborant.
It’s a very dumb term to use in earnest, just call them what they did and stop trying to make morality a legal question.
I’m the same person that made the original comment. Yes, that is what I was getting at. How long before “proud terrorist” merchandise? Can’t believe how silly the future is.
But it is domestic terrorism, it completely fits that definition. I’m not saying I really give a shit, but let’s be clear what’s happening.
Rage bait used to be believable
So you disagree with the FBIs definition? Why does your disagreement make it bait?
Maybe I’m missing something if the “attacks” in question are water balloons or whatever. I assumed, possibly incorrectly, that something more severe was implied by that word. Like arson, or similar.
“Think before you drink before you drive me mad.”
Carefully chosen words to make people go “oh, that’s terrible” and side with what Trump is saying.
This is basically like that time Jimmy Carter’s peanut fields were torched because of high gasoline prices
I mean, if someone was to burn a dealership down, that would be rather similar. I assumed a certain severity of attack, because that word implies a degree of violence to me. I may be wrong there. I don’t think graffiti could ever be accurately described as an attack, for example.
Is it though? Terrorism is the use of violence to achieve a political goal by creating fear in a population. The people who are targeting Tesla dealerships aren’t directing their message to the general population, they’re directing it to one Nazi in particular.
Yes that’s by definition domestic terrorism, Elon is part of government and even if he weren’t so long as the fires and such are intended to raise awareness by fear or loss of profit it would still be by definition domestic terrorism.
For reference according to the FBI since 1982:
I don’t know how weird US Law can get, but Elon Musk is not “a Government”, a “civilian population” and at this point not even an elected official.
Since these protests are aimed at discrediting and damaging a specific individual and/or enterprise, the FBI definition does not apply.
He is part of the government and you’re either being stupid or you’re actually stupid, let’s hope it’s an act.
https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-doge-white-house-layoffs-0fcdbb692717c63203ef971cb9807b35
They also say he’s not a Nazi, trust your eyes not the proven liars.
Still, legally the definition of the FBI would not apply.
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If the sentence begins with “the FBI defines…” you can be sure it helps fascists…
Dank hyperbole but that really doesn’t change the definition.
Exactly. They aren’t even attempting to scare Tesla customers themselves. It’s all about tarnishing Musk’s image, sending a message, and damaging his cashcow.
Yeah the issue is somehow white nationalist mows down a mall = troubled teen, liberal (re: minority because nuance and reality are things they struggle to grasp) attacks on private property resulting in zero death or major injury = domestic terrorism.
Iirc they didn’t even label the assassination attempt as domestic terrorism.
Then there’s clearly a distinct and significant double standard at play here, which is 100% the actual problem.
Yes that’s what the other person is saying. It is clearly domestic terrorism but because the left in large part feel it to be a moral action that it isn’t domestic terrorism and that’s just wildly idiotic. Almost to a person terrorists believe themselves to be doing something morally correct while also being intentionally morally abborant.
It’s a very dumb term to use in earnest, just call them what they did and stop trying to make morality a legal question.
I’m the same person that made the original comment. Yes, that is what I was getting at. How long before “proud terrorist” merchandise? Can’t believe how silly the future is.