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    Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens, and only then you might change your mind. It doesn’t need to be about Tesla. It doesn’t even need to be about something you agree with.

    Insurance prices will rise across the board, maybe more for Tesla, but also for other brands. That is just how insurance works.

    You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla. You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.

    You are condoning terrorism. Do better.

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      Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens,

      Only if I buy a Tesla.

      Insurance prices will rise across the board

      Nope. This vandalism risk is only related to Tesla.

      also for other brands.

      Why? They are not being vandalised, have no change in risk so have no premium adjustment.

      That is just how insurance works.

      You obviously have no idea how insurance works.

      You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla.

      Agreed.

      You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.

      Vandalism accomplishes the goal faster and more aggressively

      You are condoning terrorism. Do better.

      I’m condoning nothing. I will even explicitly say Don’t Vandalise Cars. Happy?

      What I am doing is explaining how Musk is affected if people continue to vandalise Teslas.

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        Only if I buy a Tesla.

        First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

        Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

        Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

        Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

        Yes, you are the villain here.

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            02 months ago

            No. I invoked it to highlight the absurdity of this line of thinking: that it is somehow acceptable to damage the property of a worker who may be completely innocent.

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              It’s absurd because there is no slippery slope. People are not going to start torching Ferraris or burn windows 95 CDs.

              It’s offensive because you are using it to defend an actual Nazi.

              Is it somehow acceptable for Elon to damage the lives of millions of worker who may be completely innocent?

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                See you keep saying “defending a Nazi”. I keep saying “you’re torching the personal property of people who are not Elon Musk and who likely innocently bought the vehicle”. If you’re just going to talk right past me and start talking about Musk when I’m talking about individual workers, I don’t see how this is a real conversation at all.

                But just to be clear: torching Teslas that Musk already got paid for does not hurt him.

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                  Just to be clear: torching Teslas that Musk already got paid for does hurt him.

                  • Less people are going to buy vehicles that are often vandalised (by torching or other means) and cost more to insure.

                  • Demand for Teslas goes down.

                  • Less Teslas are sold.

                  • Tesla makes less revenue.

                  • Less dividends in the future.

                  • Lower share prices now.

                  • Musk loses money.


                  Trying to claim this isn’t true = defending Nazi interests.

                  Individual workers should blame Musk. Not protesters.

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                    11 month ago

                    But share prices were already going down?

                    You people are going this far just to rationalize the burning of cars. The toll this will have on support for the cause will dwarf the temporary damage to Musk’s assets. This is just blatantly stupid accelerationism.

                    Go join an actual cause and be part of something. Stop lashing out like a baby.