Not setting up an account, that’s roughly the same. Adding contacts by topic, blocking topics and people with bad agendas en masse, etc. I started my Mastodon account almost a year before Bluesky. In Bluesky I had something useful in a week. In Mastodon I still don’t (and it’s not for lack of effort).
I don’t think I do… what I explained was, Mastodon is too difficult not because of the interface, it’s because it’s too decentralized, to the point of everyone getting lost in the forest, and no one can find each other within the networks.
As for Bluesky, while it’s not the best or safest alternative, is way more convenient for networking—the raison d’être of a social network.
No one is arguing about that. None of that matters when BlueSky turns into the next Xitter. Your social network is irrelevant when you can’t even find those people in a feed full of ads for weight loss supplements and unchecked disinformation.
“Im so tired of hearing that getting set up is easier in bluesky, you can do it like this on mastodon”
“That didn’t set up my account, which includes getting a healthy following base”
…
“That’s not the discussion we are having”
I’m another person but, are you sure it isn’t? Setting up the account is not only creation, it’s all the tweaks until it’s useful for the user. If the user needs connections and searching for them is harder (due to how search works currently with federation) then setting up is indeed harder on Mastodon, which is the point the one you are responding to is reinforcing.
I’m so tired of hearing this. Just click the mastodon.social button in the app and it’s not any different.
Wouldn’t that mean everyone is centralized on the same instance? I don’t use Mastodon so I don’t know if it’s the same as here…
Not everyone. Just those users who don’t care enough to be picky. I wish they would rotate the instances but this is better than nothing.
Sorry what do you mean? I see users posting from other instances in my mastodon app (I haven’t used it much).
Sorry, what do you mean?
Which would indicate that
is incorrect.
Idk this whole thread confuses me. I’m on est.social instance, I’m gonna assume I see everyone who hasnt excluded my instance and vice versa…
It’s a bit more complicated than that, but yes, that’s the gist of it.
Not setting up an account, that’s roughly the same. Adding contacts by topic, blocking topics and people with bad agendas en masse, etc. I started my Mastodon account almost a year before Bluesky. In Bluesky I had something useful in a week. In Mastodon I still don’t (and it’s not for lack of effort).
I’ve been on Mastodon for two years now. I’m active and all.
And yet, to this date, I still can’t find a single person in my working field, who are located within the province of Quebec.
Bluesky? Found and added over a hundred, in mere days.
Yeah I mean you’re making my point here. More marketshare = more leverage over users.
I don’t think I do… what I explained was, Mastodon is too difficult not because of the interface, it’s because it’s too decentralized, to the point of everyone getting lost in the forest, and no one can find each other within the networks.
As for Bluesky, while it’s not the best or safest alternative, is way more convenient for networking—the raison d’être of a social network.
No one is arguing about that. None of that matters when BlueSky turns into the next Xitter. Your social network is irrelevant when you can’t even find those people in a feed full of ads for weight loss supplements and unchecked disinformation.
I know that. And I do believe Mastodon is superior tech-wise, safer and better.
But, at this moment, the people I look to reach are on Bluesky, none are on Mastodon.
Again, that is not the discussion we are having.
“Im so tired of hearing that getting set up is easier in bluesky, you can do it like this on mastodon”
“That didn’t set up my account, which includes getting a healthy following base”
…
“That’s not the discussion we are having”
I’m another person but, are you sure it isn’t? Setting up the account is not only creation, it’s all the tweaks until it’s useful for the user. If the user needs connections and searching for them is harder (due to how search works currently with federation) then setting up is indeed harder on Mastodon, which is the point the one you are responding to is reinforcing.
Not having users on the platform is not part of account set up, no.