this is what they ran on to stop, at least in part.
more over, I didn’t sign up for this shit either. If they don’t start doing their job, we will be going to a civil war- a civil war that will make the last one look like a block party.
That’s all fair. I’m not at all satisfied with their performance, just not surprised. Legislators don’t know how to respond to the Gish Gallop, especially when it’s taken the top offices.
I guess the biggest issue I have is when legislators are whining about it.
“Well I didn’t sign up for this!”
Except you kinda did. and the time to act was over the last four and a quarter years… with the whole apparently lacking an understand of where it’s going.
What will it take to supplant them and take control of the party or delegitimize them as a viable 2nd party in the awful two party system and replace the party with something progressive that represents workers other than more of the same?
What plan? Democrats and Republicans are just two different interfaces for a single government cast of the USA owners. They don’t care. They won’t be fired or something. Democrats will continue to get high position roles. All is good for them.
But it will definitely harm millions of non-americans, and empower far-right groups globally, and likely ignite WWIII, perhaps before or after an internal civil war.
millions will starve in developing nations and 100s of thousands more will die from preventable diseases.
It’s also literally in-line with the faux-left accelerationists’ dogma:
Phase 1 - Make the world worse by helping the far-Right take over governments. This will lead to increased suffering domestically and internationally.
Phase 2 - ?
Phase 3 - Working class solidarity and uprising resulting in socialist utopia.
(Phase 2, historically, likely involves either a few centuries of oppression, and/or global armed conflict and genocide, but that’s a sacrifice that they’re willing to make.)
That’s genuinely the most sanity-destroying part of this for me.
They made a playbook years ago. They said they made it. The posted it openly on the internet years ago. They said they’d follow the playbook. They’re now following the playbook. They’re continuing to follow the playbook. They are completing entire sections of the playbook, according to what was written in the playbook. They will continue to follow the playbook.
This is not a surprise. You are not allowed to be surprised by this. Fucking stop it.
And yet: all the Democratic leadership and rank-and-file - save for a very small handful of progressives - are all in a constant state of shock and surprise. What the absolute fuck. How. HOW.
Yes. But even 10, 20 years ago there would have been a few being like, “fuck no.” They’re all folding and toeing the line. (And yes, putting on the armbands and the diapers and the maxi pads over thermal ears.)
the part that pisses me off the most about this is that the democrats all read the thrice-damned playbook.
Like. WHY THE FUCK DO THEY NOT HAVE A PLAN?!
oh. that and the fucking nazis are winning.
Democrats aren’t revolutionaries. They’re legislators. Most of them didn’t sign up for this but for normal work.
It does mean we have the wrong people in office when we need fighters, but I don’t see how you can throw all the blame on them.
They’re the ones who are afraid of going to Gitmo, assuming they aren’t otherwise disappeared.
I hate to be that guy, but do you or they really think that’s gonna stop them?
No. The people are going to have to do it. Or the military, but that rarely ends well for anyone.
this is what they ran on to stop, at least in part.
more over, I didn’t sign up for this shit either. If they don’t start doing their job, we will be going to a civil war- a civil war that will make the last one look like a block party.
That’s all fair. I’m not at all satisfied with their performance, just not surprised. Legislators don’t know how to respond to the Gish Gallop, especially when it’s taken the top offices.
I guess the biggest issue I have is when legislators are whining about it.
“Well I didn’t sign up for this!”
Except you kinda did. and the time to act was over the last four and a quarter years… with the whole apparently lacking an understand of where it’s going.
What will it take to supplant them and take control of the party or delegitimize them as a viable 2nd party in the awful two party system and replace the party with something progressive that represents workers other than more of the same?
I don’t see a voting way out of this, sadly.
So if it’s a revolution, and we win, we then get to institute different rules that don’t lead to the inevitable two party domination.
What plan? Democrats and Republicans are just two different interfaces for a single government cast of the USA owners. They don’t care. They won’t be fired or something. Democrats will continue to get high position roles. All is good for them.
It is bad only for you, common American peon.
If you think the collapse of the American government is only bad for America, that’s a dumb take. Surely the oligarchy is to blame.
The plan to take it down was in place for a long time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics
But it will definitely harm millions of non-americans, and empower far-right groups globally, and likely ignite WWIII, perhaps before or after an internal civil war.
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It’s also literally in-line with the faux-left accelerationists’ dogma:
Phase 1 - Make the world worse by helping the far-Right take over governments. This will lead to increased suffering domestically and internationally. Phase 2 - ? Phase 3 - Working class solidarity and uprising resulting in socialist utopia.
(Phase 2, historically, likely involves either a few centuries of oppression, and/or global armed conflict and genocide, but that’s a sacrifice that they’re willing to make.)
That’s genuinely the most sanity-destroying part of this for me.
They made a playbook years ago. They said they made it. The posted it openly on the internet years ago. They said they’d follow the playbook. They’re now following the playbook. They’re continuing to follow the playbook. They are completing entire sections of the playbook, according to what was written in the playbook. They will continue to follow the playbook.
This is not a surprise. You are not allowed to be surprised by this. Fucking stop it.
And yet: all the Democratic leadership and rank-and-file - save for a very small handful of progressives - are all in a constant state of shock and surprise. What the absolute fuck. How. HOW.
and more infuriating- they ran on “WE NEED TO FIGHT THIS”.
Right? And then they fucking softballed it. Like, what the fuck. What the actual fuck.
“We can’t remove the filibuster… what if we need it?!”…
(Some time later, when it’s needed…)
“Best we can do is…. NOTHING”
I’m also quite certain the fascists will ditch the filibuster the second orangeboi asks them to
Yup.
At this point, the republicans can’t fold fast enough, and democrats are just stepping aside because “reasons”.
There’s only a handful of people actually standing up.
The Republican aren’t folding. They’re putting their armbands on.
Yes. But even 10, 20 years ago there would have been a few being like, “fuck no.” They’re all folding and toeing the line. (And yes, putting on the armbands and the diapers and the maxi pads over thermal ears.)
For example, Ukraine and Russia.
I wonder if Lemmy could band together to create a playbook? A “Project Progressive Liberty” playbook if you will…
The Dems are following the plan because they are complicit.
Oh, they have a plan. It’s in the half-dozen fundraising texts I get every day. Trump is clearly good for democrats’ business and it makes me sick.