The Michigan Court of Appeals, in an 18-page opinion, declined to interfere with a 1931 law that carries a five-year prison term for simply having brass knuckles, also known as metallic knuckles.

A “ban on the possession of metallic knuckles falls within the historical tradition of prohibiting the concealed carry of metallic knuckles as a dangerous and unusual weapon,” Judge Christopher Murray wrote in a 3-0 opinion Tuesday.

Brass knuckles are usually a single set of rings that fits on someone’s hand. A punch can inflict serious injuries.

  • @[email protected]OP
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    1121 month ago

    America is weird af. Ban brass knuckles but allow semi-automatic weapons that kill thousands every year.

    Weird. As. Fuck.

        • NSRXN
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          11 month ago

          in Pennsylvania you need a license to carry to transport a gun at all. whoever made this map doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

            • NSRXN
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              11 month ago

              call a county sheriff in Pa and ask them if this map accurately represents the license to carry laws. maybe not Philadelphia, but any other county sheriff will tell you that they want you to tell them if you’ve got a pistol, whether you intend to conceal it or not

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        51 month ago

        Not anymore. Most states now have constitutional/permitless carry. Doesn’t apply if you’re a felon, have a history of drug abuse etc etc (varies by state).

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        21 month ago

        I thought it was to conceal carry? My state I don’t think you need a license for any type of carry though. Which seems pretty legit now, considering. I feel like open carrying is way more sketchy than concealed.

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          I was walking along the shore in North Myrtle Beach and some jackass had colt .45 in a cowboy holster around his waist. He was walking with another chubby dude who was pretty obviously his friend. Never before have I seen such a fuckin chode

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        21 month ago

        I’ve got an antique real pair that belonged to my grandpa. They don’t make em like this anymore.

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        51 month ago

        They have been doing this for years. They add a little bump and sell it as a belt buckle, or add a little notch and sell it as a bottle opener. Most insane is it is fine to put a knife blade on it and sell it as a knife.

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      41 month ago

      North America? South America? Michigan is only a state in part of North America. Just want to be clear.

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      Yep, they sell them as belt buckles. I got one at a gun show because it was cheap, figured why not. I eventually looked up the legality and I would be better off legally if I carried a pistol. Actually crazy lol.

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      Afaik it’s because there’s absolutely no other applications for brass knuckles to work. You can only assault people with brass knuckles.

      Fire-arms can be used for “defence” and “hunting”.

      Edit: inb4 I don’t agree with laws around brass knuckles, or most laws about most weapons.

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        121 month ago

        A brass knuckle can also be used for defence.

        If you CAN use a firearm for defence, you’re not properly storing your firearm…

        You don’t need large magazines or semi-automatic weapons for hunting…

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          31 month ago

          If you CAN use a firearm for defence, you’re not properly storing your firearm…

          Can you explain what you mean by this?

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            I think what they are trying to say that if you can quickly grab your loaded firearm and be ready for defense, then you are not storing your firearms correctly. Firearms should be locked up and ammo kept separate.

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              31 month ago

              That’s insane. Sure when it’s being STORED it won’t be accessible quickly. But when it’s being carried, that’s just absurd.

          • @[email protected]
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            41 month ago

            He’s tryna be a macho man who lives life on the edge and drives a Hummer. Give their kind a down vote and scroll on friend :)

      • ProdigalFrog
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        81 month ago

        If someone attacks you first, and you slip on the brass knuckles before defending yourself, then surely that would be a defensive use?

        • @[email protected]
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          Yeah this is that kind of rules-lawyering grey area that everybody’s too busy to deal with. It’s the same issue with the assault rifles and large mags… they’re very clearly weapons of war but they look like guns and all* guns can be used for hunting.

    • @[email protected]
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      71 month ago

      This is an honest reply. It really depends on the situation. Feral hog sounders are a very scary thing, and fairly common in areas that commonly vote against their own economic interests. That bit in the Hannibal the cannibal movie, about the pigs, holds its share of truth. But in a city things that are necessary outside of one should be appropriately regulated.

      That meme about European woodland being pleasant and the American woodland being a hellscape, is not very far from the truth.

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        I want to answer honestly as well. I looked up the numbers, and we have 2 million wild boars in Germany. Germany has roughly the size of Montana.

        High estimates say, there are 9 Mio in the US, 3 Mio in Texas (twice as large as Germany). So the numbers are rooouuughly comparable, a little more swine here in DE.

        I guess, the feral hogs are really back to being wild nowadays despite stemming from domesticated pigs. So I will classify them as scary as a wild boar. Which they are, they are scary.

        How do we manage this? Each year about 600 000 boars are shot by professional hunters. The general population doesn’t need weapons for that. And the hunting rifles are bolt action or single action, not automatics.

        The main damage they cause is not to live and limb, but to property, namely crop fields. Our solution is, that each hunter is assigned a district and a number he must shoot. If the farmland in his area is damaged more than x% that is also his responsibility.

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        Yeah Europe forgets it killed it’s scary megafauna. America has grizzlies and wolves and the boars are invasive with no natural predators

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          11 month ago

          Coyotes and Skunks are more a nuisance than Grizzles and Wolves where I live. Wish there was something we could feed the skunks so they didn’t stink up large areas. Then again they’d probably be killed by Coyotes if they didn’t stink so bad.

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          41 month ago

          Because they have 4 hands and you only have 2 so you’re outgunned already, imagine if they took your brass knuckles

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            11 month ago

            The only answer for a bad ungulate with brass knuckles is … Alright, I got nothing here