Send the CEO of this company to jail for a year for this shit, see how fast it stops
Why TF is it that if I cheat, fraud, steal, I go to jail but of a company does it it’s at best a long-lasting draw out court case that ends in a settlement that costs the company a few cents on the dollar they made?
I’m so so so SO tired of this
Fuck protections for companies. If you wilfully fuck people over, if you steal or cheat, you go to jail, PERIOD. If that means you don’t want to start a company anymore, good riddance. There are more than enough people who happily run companies without cheating
Exactly this. My whole life I’ve been told that executives deserve their massive compensation because of all the high risk decisions they make. But if they ever get called out they take no responsibility. It’s infuriating!
I think we should also introduce death penalty for companies. Did a company commit a serious enough crime ? Then we just kill it. Is does not deserve to exist anymore.
If you kill the company you do punish those people by killing their main revenue/asset. The good thing is that you also punish the investors who will lose all their money. This will dissuade anybody to invest into a company if there is a possibility that the company is fraudulent. This could even push more transparency in the companies to attract investors.
This this this this this. Corporations are people when their “speech” needs to be protected via campaign bribery, but not when they kill people in the name of profit. Fuck. That. Shit.
You end up making a huge amount of people jobless, including the C suite, and investors moneyless.
It’ll be a nice reminder for everybody, and everybody will be very picky about which company they work for / invest in. Maybe leading to more transparency in companies so that they can prove that they don’t commit fraud / crimes.
Too many companies have so much money/power that their crimes have much worse consequences than making people jobless.
Take a look at the other comments. The other side of the bottle states it helps reduce the amount of plastic required on the inside bottle by 50%, while making things easier to recycle.
Unfortunately that detail doesnt fit on one side, the only side the imager taker chose to show.
Omission of details in this image can be slightly misleading. However branding the container as “Paperbottle” is much more misleading by an order of magnitude.
Product labeling is almost pointless. Especially if it can be missed by a photographer.
Neither is right, but one is definitely more wrong
Yea I do agree. Companies that really want to make things better just need to sell bulk refills. Plastic use goes way down the larger the container (to a point based on weight). In-store refills are of course the best, but lots more challenges there.
Yeah I did some digging and it seems well-intended but its just done really poorly and misleading. From what I can tell, because of the paper outer protective layer, they were able to use a lighter plastic layer on the inside layer reducing the amount of plastic used. If not for the plastic on the inside, I don’t know how you’d really keep the bottle from disintegrating from all the liquid inside.
I do think that they were lying about not seeing how people could misinterpret what they thought they were saying with the bottle. Obviously some people are going to look at something saying “This is a paper bottle” and think that means the whole bottle is paper. I would’ve assumed some sort of chemical/hydrophobic coating on the inside which might not be great for the environment either. But them saying they didn’t expect people to misinterpret it is dumb.
Seriously, this should be a criminal offense.
Send the CEO of this company to jail for a year for this shit, see how fast it stops
Why TF is it that if I cheat, fraud, steal, I go to jail but of a company does it it’s at best a long-lasting draw out court case that ends in a settlement that costs the company a few cents on the dollar they made?
I’m so so so SO tired of this
Fuck protections for companies. If you wilfully fuck people over, if you steal or cheat, you go to jail, PERIOD. If that means you don’t want to start a company anymore, good riddance. There are more than enough people who happily run companies without cheating
Exactly this. My whole life I’ve been told that executives deserve their massive compensation because of all the high risk decisions they make. But if they ever get called out they take no responsibility. It’s infuriating!
Executive: ‘my manager said so’
Manager: ‘my director said so’
Director: ‘my VP said so’
VP: ‘the CEO said so’
CEO: ‘tye management board said so’
Management board: ‘it was a collective decision, so no one is to blame’
Corporate unaccountability at its finest.
Oh, you’re missing the most important part of the meta:
CEO: We just did that the consulting company told us
Consulting company: We just make recommendations
So what if, and hear me out on this one, we throw ALL of them in jail, then? If you did it, you’re guilty.
Do that 5 times and all of the sudden watch all corporations start behaving themselves like there is no tomorrow
Generally each step morphs slightly:
I think we should also introduce death penalty for companies. Did a company commit a serious enough crime ? Then we just kill it. Is does not deserve to exist anymore.
Why punish the company when it was the people inside the company that did the wrong thing? Punish the people and let another batch fix it.
If you kill the company you do punish those people by killing their main revenue/asset. The good thing is that you also punish the investors who will lose all their money. This will dissuade anybody to invest into a company if there is a possibility that the company is fraudulent. This could even push more transparency in the companies to attract investors.
This this this this this. Corporations are people when their “speech” needs to be protected via campaign bribery, but not when they kill people in the name of profit. Fuck. That. Shit.
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Agreed, though then you could end up making a huge amount of people jobless for the actions if a tiny few people.
Better just jail the seniors at the top, it’ll be a nice reminder for the replacement C suite
You end up making a huge amount of people jobless, including the C suite, and investors moneyless.
It’ll be a nice reminder for everybody, and everybody will be very picky about which company they work for / invest in. Maybe leading to more transparency in companies so that they can prove that they don’t commit fraud / crimes.
Too many companies have so much money/power that their crimes have much worse consequences than making people jobless.
Take a look at the other comments. The other side of the bottle states it helps reduce the amount of plastic required on the inside bottle by 50%, while making things easier to recycle.
Unfortunately that detail doesnt fit on one side, the only side the imager taker chose to show.
Omission of details in this image can be slightly misleading. However branding the container as “Paperbottle” is much more misleading by an order of magnitude.
Product labeling is almost pointless. Especially if it can be missed by a photographer.
Neither is right, but one is definitely more wrong
Yea I do agree. Companies that really want to make things better just need to sell bulk refills. Plastic use goes way down the larger the container (to a point based on weight). In-store refills are of course the best, but lots more challenges there.
Yeah I did some digging and it seems well-intended but its just done really poorly and misleading. From what I can tell, because of the paper outer protective layer, they were able to use a lighter plastic layer on the inside layer reducing the amount of plastic used. If not for the plastic on the inside, I don’t know how you’d really keep the bottle from disintegrating from all the liquid inside.
I do think that they were lying about not seeing how people could misinterpret what they thought they were saying with the bottle. Obviously some people are going to look at something saying “This is a paper bottle” and think that means the whole bottle is paper. I would’ve assumed some sort of chemical/hydrophobic coating on the inside which might not be great for the environment either. But them saying they didn’t expect people to misinterpret it is dumb.
Wax?
How about a ceramic or glass one that you refill?
The refills themselves can also be a glass bottle that you fill at the store or something
Sure, but that increases weight and cost. It’s certainly an option though.
I’ve always thought about this. If there was a like a soda machine, with shampoo, dish soap, etc I could refill at, I’d definitely use it.
Yeah, that would be rad. Some stores do that for water and peanut butter and whatnot, but I haven’t seen soap.
Not if you keep using the same bottle for refills, that’s the entire point
Sure, but how much does that actually happen?
Almost never because it’s not a thing
If government outs rules to make it a thing it’ll. Happen everywhere