Summary
The Atlantic has published unredacted attack plans (non-paywall link) shared in a Signal group chat of senior Trump officials, including Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and DNI Tulsi Gabbard.
Editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg released the full texts after officials denied sharing war plans or classified information, arguing transparency was necessary amid accusations of dishonesty.
The leaked messages detailed U.S. military strikes targeting Houthis in Yemen.
So thankful we avoided GeNoCiDe JoE!
This is way better! …but then again, the world is only black or white… so maybe not. I guess the internet wanted this and so here we are.
Ah yes, some pro-Palestinians who didn’t cast their votes are the reason democrats lost.
This trope is getting old to be honest.
edit: don’t forget to vOtE bLuE!
The prevalent message is what counts.
Kinda like saying a handful of idiots pushed a narrative about Hillary’s server. More idiots bought that line but it was started by a small group.
The well known argument that the 90 millions eligible voters that did not vote were influenced by a few people protesting the US aiding and supporting a genocide.
very rational, very smart…Keep on deflecting instead of bettering your party, that will show the republicans currently destroying what is left of your society.
Why not both? It’s entirely possible to push for progressive policies while also acknowledging the role cultural influence and the internet holds…
Easier that being an asshole really.
Because it’s nonsensical? You people are trying to put all the blame of trump win on some vocal minority from the left.
This is dishonest, and quite disturbing. Especially seeing how frequent this argument keep popping up on every thread related to trump destroying your country.
Fox News my summer child and people like you…
It’s everyone’s fault except mine
No it’s the country’s but your special form of idiocy deserves a special mention. You should look in the mirror and keep repeating your last comment to make yourself feel better.
It’s this rhetoric that plays perfectly into the class divide that the corporate asshats want everyone to fall for. “It’s your fault for not voting for the other corporate shill party!” Disregarding the fact that the main difference is one party is just mask off, and the other is mask on fascist. As many people rightly point out, the dems are controlled opposition. If they weren’t there would literally have been much more fight and pushback from them for the four years before Trump 2.0 (especially since they knew it was coming faaar in advance) rather then the milquetoast response we got from them, this was made quite obvious by the dems moving right in many policies and stumping with Cheney of all people. If these people really gave a shit about appealing to their constituents, they would’ve listened to the damn voters. This is all beside the point as modern American voting IS NOT determined by the voting public, but much more powerful interests. If you really believed your vote was effecting something in this, or any other election in the past 20+ years, I have a bridge to sell you in the Sahara.
You are making lot of sense, it’s like good cop / bad cop stuff. Democrats will play this game of redirecting the blame away from their lovely politicians but won’t hold them accountable for yet doing anything about anything…
It was a really educational thread, even makes me wondering if all those comments were organic, like some of these arguments were too stupid and detached to be real.
That’s exactly it, I almost used the good cop/bad cop analogy for my original comment. It’s been glaringly obvious that the dems are just a pressure-release valve for people’s anger for some time now. They never live up to any of the expectations that people have for them. At this point it is a cruel Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown facade. And democrat voters eat it up every time.
Now the biggest sentiment from liberals is “this is your fault, if only you’d voted for the dems”, when it is largely irrelevant if voters do. The dems are just a friendlier looking version of a corporate controlled imperialistic government. The sooner the people realize this, the sooner we can actually mobilize people against the real enemies of the people, which is corporate control of both political parties. Until class-consciousness manifests itself on a much larger scale, we’ll continue to play these stupid corporate controlled dem vs repub games and win more stupid prizes.
The vote was within 2M. Yes, they changed the outcome.
Are you really using the margin of the popular vote in a gerrymandered country to make a point?
It’s sad.
edit: I, too, remember how Hillary won the 2016 election thanks to the popular vote… oh wait.
Do you understand how gerrymandering works? It doesn’t apply directly to Presidential elections.
Should have reread my comment before making these assumptions.
The bit you edited in afterwards? No, you don’t get credit for that, and you still don’t know what you’re talking about.
The truth gets old, got it.
Keep coping, doing the ostrich will not save your country, neither will cardboards.
Couldn’t bring myself to let them jerk off of themselves.
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they most certainly influenced the election, whether or not they were responsible or not is a bit more complicated to answer.
Whether or not they should’ve voted is the simplest possible answer you could give. The answer was yes, and they didn’t.
Even if they voted, it wouldn’t have changed anything.
But please, continue using them as tokens for your deflection. It will make your country better. What could go wrong…
i mean i literally made that argument in my comment, but please, keep coping.
cool story
i know, i spent so long making it, please respond, i sent you pictures of my toe beans. ._.
If they voted, they would’ve changed the outcome. Lol
sure keep living in your fantasy
That’s literally cause and effect my dude, are you refuting fundamental natural phenomena instead of just admitting you made a mistake?
It’s enjoyable seeing you lot arguing about how you could loose against a rapist insurrectionist.
Don’t anger uniparty tards like that.
Yes, you hold some of this blood in your hands. Complaining won’t absolve you of it. Thank you for your disservice, what are you doing to help correct it?
I’m not american, thank god.
Cool, so your criticism is worth nothing
I know, but I feel bad watching you people fall into a fascistic society while you fight eachother to know who’s the most righteous.
Most people over here have been beaten down almost completely by a sick capitalist culture. The group who is “fighting for who’s the most righteous” (<- a phrase I love, for what that’s worth) is the same group fucking most of us.
This trope if pathetic, only Americans think this way. You need an actual opposition party then, not neoliberalism. Because fascism wins either with your way of thinking.
No politician offering universal healthcare, affordable housing, paid time off, better wages, resistance against genocide, etc. and etc. And youre mad at the voters? You see how fucked up that is?
Blaming others and voters will keep making your situation worse and worse, until they come after you as well. You could instead use your energy to protest in various ways or to support or help to challenge and create new parties or structures.
Keep dogging on your own citizens and youre gonna be next. Literally the playbook of Nazis. “First they came for…”
The Trump administration has a lot of catching up to do if they want to get even remotely close to the number of casualties and the staggering destruction caused by Genocide Joe.
covid much?
Covid is on the Trump administration now?
Fucking YES.
Wasn’t it Obama that normalized the indiscriminate use of drone strikes in civilian areas without congressional approval?
Democrats are just more competent about their use of military action.
The problem is that republicans and democrats are still all american.
Killed an underage American boy in the very same country that is getting bombed again.
Sigh. Harris would be more competently bombing people in Yemen, so I’m happy with Trump in charge when it comes to this.
yeah thank god all those left leaning voters didn’t vote for kamala, we would be in so much worse of a position now.