Disney technically isn’t a confirmed Nazi, AFAIK. He actually worked with jewish employees at his company who vouched for him.
He was a nazi by association, to the antisemite Motion Picture Alliance of the time and his welcoming of Nazi film film director Leni Riefenstahl. He also had a specific beef with a specific Jewish businessman who labelled him an antisemite, and his company produced at least one antisemitic portrayal of the three little pigs, but it also produced propoganda for the US Military fighting the nazis. In their cartoon “the ducktators” they mount the stuffed heads of Hitler, Mussolini, and a japanese military leader I don’t recognize on the wall above the fireplace.
He was racist af, tho, but no less than average in 1930s and 1940s.
Now, no morals and only caring about money would take you the same path Nazis took if it was found profitable. Just look at what the megacorps are doing - absolutely anything they can to squeeze couple more pennies without caring of the consequences to human life, as long as they’re not financially penalized for it.
It would be like comparing Bill Gates to Elon Musk
Bill Gates is not the great example you thought he’d be.
It’s not even many years ago when he himself said he’s willing to sacrifice any amount of lives necessary to squeeze the profits out of COVID vaccine patents
The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation saved and enriched millions of lives across Africa. The Gates foundation also walkef back their opposition to making the vaccine patent free and open, their original excuse was that it could lead to loss of quality control.
But if a profiteer trades media with a nazi it doesn’t make him one. It makes him an asshole, but a Nazi is something far worse and by watering that down and normalizing it you’re doing great harm to society.
if a profiteer trades media with a nazi it doesn’t make him one
I would argue it does. By assisting a Nazi in any way, you have actively chosen not to hinder them, and are thus furthering their cause. That makes you a fucking honorary Nazi at the very least.
It’s not about watering anything down, it’s about keeping those pieces of shit as radioactive as possible. Their ideology should be completely isolated and driven to literal extinction.
Is anything you own made in China? Is any of the fuel you’ve used in the past couple of years supplied by SA or Russia? If so, aren’t you actively promoting multiple genocides?
I somewhat agree, because their opinion can be changed by whatever is most profitable. However, that view also makes it impossible to identify Nazis. It’s hard to say Disney wasn’t a Nazi and only did things against that because it was profitable, or he was anti-nazi and only did things for them because it was profitable. If “just following orders” makes you a Nazi, then just following the profits does too.
I think if a nazi is living secretly in hiding all is well but since we live in a world where people tell us who they are it becomes incredibly easy to identify Nazis.
Just gonna point out that that’s a Crusader cross, I think it’s the cross of Jerusalem specifically but I’m only really familiar with like three Crusader orders so it could be one of the more obscure ones I’m just not recognizing. I only say this since I keep seeing folks calling it the iron cross which is an entirely different symbol and would be less of a red flag since at least the iron cross has connections to the German Empire, Modern Germany, and American Biker gangs.
I made a recreation of a local bust of Kaiser Wilhelm (one of the good ones, brought peace to Europe (the non-ominous way)) that happened to include an actual iron cross medal. I was concerned about modern interpretations and so I did research on it, and the anti-defamation league tells me that it is not a hate symbol. Good enough for me.
Disney technically isn’t a confirmed Nazi, AFAIK. He actually worked with jewish employees at his company who vouched for him.
He was a nazi by association, to the antisemite Motion Picture Alliance of the time and his welcoming of Nazi film film director Leni Riefenstahl. He also had a specific beef with a specific Jewish businessman who labelled him an antisemite, and his company produced at least one antisemitic portrayal of the three little pigs, but it also produced propoganda for the US Military fighting the nazis. In their cartoon “the ducktators” they mount the stuffed heads of Hitler, Mussolini, and a japanese military leader I don’t recognize on the wall above the fireplace.
He was racist af, tho, but no less than average in 1930s and 1940s.
Sounds like he just didn’t have any morals, just cared about the money.
Which I don’t think is any better than being a Nazi, but could be worse
Yeah, no morals
No, Nazis are way fucking worse
Now, no morals and only caring about money would take you the same path Nazis took if it was found profitable. Just look at what the megacorps are doing - absolutely anything they can to squeeze couple more pennies without caring of the consequences to human life, as long as they’re not financially penalized for it.
No, it’s the same monsters different motivation
A successful businessman seeks to enrich himself and his investors by satiafying market demands.
A nazi seeks to enrich himself by murdering and taking from others, by exploiting and torturing others to the maximum effect of cruelty.
It would be like comparing Bill Gates to Elon Musk.
Bill Gates is not the great example you thought he’d be.
It’s not even many years ago when he himself said he’s willing to sacrifice any amount of lives necessary to squeeze the profits out of COVID vaccine patents
The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation saved and enriched millions of lives across Africa. The Gates foundation also walkef back their opposition to making the vaccine patent free and open, their original excuse was that it could lead to loss of quality control.
Say what you want about the tenets of national socialism dude; at least it’s an ethos…
Man, that’s a bold quote to drop ITT. 🤣 Just watched again two weeks ago.
In my book, Nazi adjacent = Nazi. He wasn’t trying to get along with Nazis to save orphans or something.
There should be zero tolerance for Nazis.
But if a profiteer trades media with a nazi it doesn’t make him one. It makes him an asshole, but a Nazi is something far worse and by watering that down and normalizing it you’re doing great harm to society.
I would argue it does. By assisting a Nazi in any way, you have actively chosen not to hinder them, and are thus furthering their cause. That makes you a fucking honorary Nazi at the very least.
It’s not about watering anything down, it’s about keeping those pieces of shit as radioactive as possible. Their ideology should be completely isolated and driven to literal extinction.
Lol, not hindering equals assisting, okay
Why are you assisting in the Israeli genocide?
Is anything you own made in China? Is any of the fuel you’ve used in the past couple of years supplied by SA or Russia? If so, aren’t you actively promoting multiple genocides?
I said absolutely no such thing. I said assisting a Nazi is choosing not to hinder them.
And you know absolutely nothing about my habits, what I do, or what I buy so fuck off with that bad faith nonsense and stop defending Nazis.
Please stop murdering Palestinians.
Also, Nazi punks can fuck off.
Put down the crack pipe, kid.
Oskar Schindler
I somewhat agree, because their opinion can be changed by whatever is most profitable. However, that view also makes it impossible to identify Nazis. It’s hard to say Disney wasn’t a Nazi and only did things against that because it was profitable, or he was anti-nazi and only did things for them because it was profitable. If “just following orders” makes you a Nazi, then just following the profits does too.
I think if a nazi is living secretly in hiding all is well but since we live in a world where people tell us who they are it becomes incredibly easy to identify Nazis.
“what do you want tattooed”
“I want the american history x tattoo but make it slightly less on the nose”
Hes also got an american flag, handgun, and Dues Vult tattoo on his arm.
Just gonna point out that that’s a Crusader cross, I think it’s the cross of Jerusalem specifically but I’m only really familiar with like three Crusader orders so it could be one of the more obscure ones I’m just not recognizing. I only say this since I keep seeing folks calling it the iron cross which is an entirely different symbol and would be less of a red flag since at least the iron cross has connections to the German Empire, Modern Germany, and American Biker gangs.
I made a recreation of a local bust of Kaiser Wilhelm (one of the good ones, brought peace to Europe (the non-ominous way)) that happened to include an actual iron cross medal. I was concerned about modern interpretations and so I did research on it, and the anti-defamation league tells me that it is not a hate symbol. Good enough for me.
The same anti-defamation league that said musk’s nazi salute was just a awkward gesture?
Wasn’t that a Israel advocacy group who’s name presently escapes me?
The very same! I don’t really care about these guys anecdotal evidence, because in practice everyone with an iron cross tattoo is actually a Nazi.
It was the God-Emperor himself. Casual reminder that Imperial Japan was a divine monarchy, and fascism and monarchism are not mutually exclusive.
The glasses are the giveaway. Plus him being the head of state…
We must be diligent with our language, even if the enemy is willing to twist it. Thanks.