For the past few years, cheats have evolved rapidly. First came memory reading aimbots, then colorbots, and now AI aim assist. Cheats have escaped the host PC. How does it affect the players and anti-cheats?
The PvP game landscape is just really sad at this point. I have been playing some Deadlock with friends and there’s a cheater almost every other game. It’s mindboggling to me how there are so many people that would pay money just to ruin the game for everyone else.
Why would it be? The neglected generation that got used to spending their parents money on micro transactions and spewing left and right “i hope you get cancer and fkn die” has grown up to spending their parents money on cheats and spewing left and right “haha you suck, kys”.
It was unavoidable. Can’t even blame the parents who’re too busy working the equivalent of 2-3 jobs in order to stay afloat. It’s just a shitty development of current society that will wreck us for generations to come.
The incentives for charging real money include “losing feels awful.” If you’re genuinely going ha ha, good game, congrats, then that’s psychological manipulation that was left on the table. The studio demands that developers leverage more agony into that defeat. It’ll keep people playing until they eke out a win, and then that win is so juiced with positive signalling, they’ll immediately want another.
Hear hear! I remember when this cool new service called Xbox Live hit the market. I was stoked to play Halo 2 against anyone that wasn’t in my small hometown. It was fun for about a week, and then i started to realize that this is just the worst people, all shoved into a small space. And then, the pregame lobbies went the way of COD, and i slowly started to phase out of online gaming.
It’s why i emulate Sega and NES games these days. They’re finished, i can play games i never got to back in the day, and no squeakers reporting on last night’s coitus with me ma. I’m truly missing the “gaming experience.”
I also remember that it was kind of fun sometimes?
I’ve never been a competitive person. So ranks mean nothing to me. So when a cheater was in the room it felt like a Boss in dark souls. Hard and unfair to beat, but when you did you felt the reward of hard work. I didn’t care about dying 100 times, I lived for killing that player just one time.
It’s really depressing that so many people cannot handle losing in a video game. I avoid PvP games now because there’s no game that isn’t filled with cheaters and rage quitters.
That’s not true at all. People figured out how to get nexto bot to play for them in ranked games. I haven’t heard about it in a while so they might have fixed it.
There are also invisible car exploits. Also network connection manipulation. These cheaters rank up super fast so 99% of players won’t experience them, but there are absolutely cheaters.
It’s a blog post about a dude who wrote his own coloraimbot and theorizing that AI could work a similar way. It didn’t talk about anything I mentioned, and it’s not even actual news. Unless you believe a pixel reading aimbot could actually be used in Rocket League to… Do what exactly?
I remember when Fall Guys came out, there was often a blatant cheater in the matches just flying around in the air skipping all obstacles. But then something beautiful would happen during team games. Through an entirely unspoken agreement, any team that got matched up with the cheater would self sabotage and intentionally lose so that the cheater would get out.
Nothing was more heartwarming than seeing the entire team standing around a giant ball, refusing to let it move, while the cheater flailed around in vain trying to knock it away.
there was often a blatant cheater in the matches just flying around in the air skipping all obstacles
Like, flying with control? Because you can usually get yourself flung hella hard over everything on some levels if they have spinning whackers. With skill you can do it purposely to shoot yourself straight into the finish line.
Yes, flying with control. As in, hovering 6ft off the ground able to move wherever they wanted. Very different from getting flung by obstacles or physics collisions.
Lots of blatant aimbotting. I’ve had vindictas and wraiths that snap onto my head and laser me, with enemies that confirm while spectating “oh yeah that person’s cheating”
The PvP game landscape is just really sad at this point. I have been playing some Deadlock with friends and there’s a cheater almost every other game. It’s mindboggling to me how there are so many people that would pay money just to ruin the game for everyone else.
Why would it be? The neglected generation that got used to spending their parents money on micro transactions and spewing left and right “i hope you get cancer and fkn die” has grown up to spending their parents money on cheats and spewing left and right “haha you suck, kys”.
It was unavoidable. Can’t even blame the parents who’re too busy working the equivalent of 2-3 jobs in order to stay afloat. It’s just a shitty development of current society that will wreck us for generations to come.
I’d argue the death of community run servers did more harm than micro transactions.
Back in the day you’d have at least one admin in the lobby taking out the trash.
All of the old Unreal Tournanent servers with crazy mods
The incentives for charging real money include “losing feels awful.” If you’re genuinely going ha ha, good game, congrats, then that’s psychological manipulation that was left on the table. The studio demands that developers leverage more agony into that defeat. It’ll keep people playing until they eke out a win, and then that win is so juiced with positive signalling, they’ll immediately want another.
Hear hear! I remember when this cool new service called Xbox Live hit the market. I was stoked to play Halo 2 against anyone that wasn’t in my small hometown. It was fun for about a week, and then i started to realize that this is just the worst people, all shoved into a small space. And then, the pregame lobbies went the way of COD, and i slowly started to phase out of online gaming.
It’s why i emulate Sega and NES games these days. They’re finished, i can play games i never got to back in the day, and no squeakers reporting on last night’s coitus with me ma. I’m truly missing the “gaming experience.”
Didn’t happen to my kid, but then I did raise her right. I guess it is avoidable afterall.
Thinking about how gaming has changed, for better and worse, always makes me feel old.
I remember cheats playing cs 1.6
Cheaters have always been there.
I also remember that it was kind of fun sometimes?
I’ve never been a competitive person. So ranks mean nothing to me. So when a cheater was in the room it felt like a Boss in dark souls. Hard and unfair to beat, but when you did you felt the reward of hard work. I didn’t care about dying 100 times, I lived for killing that player just one time.
I’ve been on the internet since before the web. Those guys have always been there.
Yeah but there way more prevalent now.
It’s really depressing that so many people cannot handle losing in a video game. I avoid PvP games now because there’s no game that isn’t filled with cheaters and rage quitters.
Rocket League doesn’t have cheaters. Everything is handled server side, so they would literally have to hack the server to cheat.
Plenty of rage quitters, though. I blame the fact that video games are not like real sports and do fuck all to teach any kind of sportsmanship.
That’s not true at all. People figured out how to get nexto bot to play for them in ranked games. I haven’t heard about it in a while so they might have fixed it.
There are also invisible car exploits. Also network connection manipulation. These cheaters rank up super fast so 99% of players won’t experience them, but there are absolutely cheaters.
Lol you didnt bother reading the article at all.
It’s a blog post about a dude who wrote his own coloraimbot and theorizing that AI could work a similar way. It didn’t talk about anything I mentioned, and it’s not even actual news. Unless you believe a pixel reading aimbot could actually be used in Rocket League to… Do what exactly?
Did you read it?
Nice try to backtrack and bullshit.
This entire paragraph shows not only that you did not bother to read the article but you have no idea what you are talking about. Go read the article.
I remember when Fall Guys came out, there was often a blatant cheater in the matches just flying around in the air skipping all obstacles. But then something beautiful would happen during team games. Through an entirely unspoken agreement, any team that got matched up with the cheater would self sabotage and intentionally lose so that the cheater would get out.
Nothing was more heartwarming than seeing the entire team standing around a giant ball, refusing to let it move, while the cheater flailed around in vain trying to knock it away.
Like, flying with control? Because you can usually get yourself flung hella hard over everything on some levels if they have spinning whackers. With skill you can do it purposely to shoot yourself straight into the finish line.
Yes, flying with control. As in, hovering 6ft off the ground able to move wherever they wanted. Very different from getting flung by obstacles or physics collisions.
I’ve played a bunch of Deadlock but I haven’t suspected anyone of cheating yet, what are you seeing?
Lots of blatant aimbotting. I’ve had vindictas and wraiths that snap onto my head and laser me, with enemies that confirm while spectating “oh yeah that person’s cheating”
Lame, I knew they were out there but I guess I’m lucky I haven’t witnessed anything that blatant yet.