Penrose for the win!

  • @[email protected]
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    627 days ago

    I guess “microtubules create consciousness trough quantum gravity” is the Nobel loreate version of dementia

    • Rowan Brad QuniOP
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      327 days ago

      I’ve come full circle on the “create consciousness” part. What we’re talking about here is quantum mechanics entanglement to exchange information that would not propagate as efficiently through physics alone (keep in mind that “quantum” is a synonym for “information,” not “particles”)

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        427 days ago

        Given that we are talking about physical processes, saying that something is happening more efficient than anything that could be done “through physics alone” is nonsensical.

        • Rowan Brad QuniOP
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          227 days ago

          Argue with the authors of the study. That’s what they found. Physics can’t explain quite a lot of things in our physical universe.

          • @[email protected]
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            427 days ago

            Argue with the authors of the study. That’s what they found.

            Assuming we are specifically talking about the paper on tryptophan, there is absolutely nothing about what they found that could be characterized in that way. To the contrary, they are using pretty standard physical models in their analysis.

            Physics can’t explain quite a lot of things in our physical universe.

            But there are a lot of things that it explains extremely well, and the things discussed in the linked article are among them.

      • @[email protected]
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        127 days ago

        That’s not how quantum works.

        You can’t decouple information from particles.

        Source: have a degree in physics.

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      427 days ago

      In fairness, it is not completely crazy for biological systems to have evolved a kind of molecule that allows there to be quantum coherence at such relatively large scales in order to improve how well the various parts of a biological system coordinate their behavior, I just will remain incredibly skeptical that this has indeed happened until there is more solid evidence then some computational modeling.