The hell I do, and it’s the people beating me up - that’s how I know you’re full of shit. People beating people up is a permanent facet of humanity - it’s what makes them animals.
You don’t engage in anarchism? At all, ever? So in your group of friends, you have clearly established hierarchy? Do you go on a date with the assumption that one of you is in charge? Have you never gotten together with a group and discussed what’s best for you all, without one person being the leader?
Anarchism isn’t a lack of rules, or the strong beating the weak, or every person for themselves. Anarchism is rejection of cohersive authority. Anarchism is a thousand little things you do every day with everyone around you. You’ve definitely participated in anarchism, whether you want to admit you have or not. And no amount of protestation is going to change that.
So in your group of friends, you have clearly established hierarchy?
I don’t have friends because assholes like you coerce others not be my friend - even threatening them with death if necessary.
Do you go on a date with the assumption that one of you is in charge?
I don’t go on dates - or even get near people - because you are all bloodthirsty bastards who enjoy torturing the “other”.
Have you never gotten together with a group and discussed what’s best for you all, without one person being the leader?
I’ve never been allowed into any group, because the leader of every group ordered his followers not to accept my humanity, and they slavishly obeyed. Because that’s an inherent facet of humanity - blindly believing and obeying what you’re told.
Anarchism is rejection of cohersive authority.
So, anarchism is being dead? Because that’s what happens when you reject authority - they fuckingkillyou. No exceptions; barely any delays.
The only way an individual does not die is to submit to a group that will protect the individual, and the minimum price for that protect is their free will. If the individual isn’t willing to be the group’s slave, why would the group ever accept the individual, when the only value any individual has for a group is their slave labor?
From the comments that you have been making it seems like you have a very negative view of other people and their ability to work together towards things that they both want (i.e. shared goals). This might be informed by your life experience and honestly, I’m sorry for what you have experienced that has led to such a negatively focused view.
I can’t convince you that anarchism can be good if you believe this staunchly. All I can say is that if you look at your surroundings you could find that people do this all the time.
An example I like to think about is driving. You know almost nothing about other drivers (how sane they are, where they are going, etc.) but we still drive and trust other drivers not to crash into us, and a majority of the time people are able to get to where they are going unharmed. This is an example of anarchy working in our everyday lives.
So, anarchism is being dead? Because that’s what happens when you reject authority - they fucking kill you. No exceptions; barely any delays.
As for this, my philosophy is that as anarchists we should follow the ideas that are based on the paradox of tolerance.
If we want a tolerant society, we need to be intolerant of intolerant ideas, or else those intolerant ideas over time become the norm.
The same goes for freedom (which is what anarchists want for everyone)
If we want a free society, we need to resist people that want to dominate, or else everyone will be dominated.
What you’re deliberately ignoring is people “do this all the time” *to* dominate others. The primary purpose of forming social groups is to gang up and dominate everyone not in their social group - that’s what social groups are for. My entire life people have ganged up on me, beaten me up and used their social gatekeeping as the clenched hand around my neck, throttling my lifeblood with the publicly-announced intention of killing me.
we still drive and trust other drivers not to crash into us
Like hell I do. I drive defensively because I know others drive offensively.
a majority of the time people are able to get to where they are going unharmed
I almost can’t go anywhere without at least some harm
People don’t crash into others because they fear being shafted by lawyers. The steel tetanus-coated rebar of corrupt law keeps the public in line.
my philosophy is that as anarchists we should follow the ideas that are based on the paradox of tolerance.
If we want a free society, we need to resist people that want to dominate, or else everyone will be dominated.
Bullshit. You don’t actually believe this. You can’t, because you are the people dominating others. Each human being wishes to dominate others - that was proven when exactly zero people protected me against such domination as a child. You all agreed, to the last man, woman, and child, that I was supposed to be dominated as a necessary function of society; according to humanity not dominating me would “bring about the End Times”. You can’t “resist people that want to dominate” - that can only end in you killing yourselves.
I am sorry for the trauma you have suffered that has left you living in fear like this. I don’t expect you to believe me, but this really isn’t the world in which most of us live, it isn’t how things really are and it doesn’t have to be this way for you either.
Bullshit. It is how things are, and I’m sick and tired of being lied to by a species of buffoons who don’t care about facts who think me their inferior. Sure, you assholes don’t live in a world of hatred - but that’s because you belong to your social groups. You all decided that I was never allowed in any social group, and that I was to be preyed upon until some of you succeeded in killing me. Don’t lie to me and tell me this “isn’t how things really are” when you assholes confessed to setting out to make it this way. You have no place to tell me what is or isn’t when you consistently discard all facts and abuse everyone you can simply to stimulate your pleasure centers at all costs. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE! Quit lying to me by telling me different. Your actions will always tell the truth and prove your lies wrong.
Look, I have no idea who you are, I don’t know anything about you and we have never interacted before. You assuming that I’m part of some grand conspiracy makes it pretty clear to me that you are suffering from paranoid delusions. If you’re not getting it already, I strongly urge you to seek help, and I’m sorry if I riled you up.
You engage in anarchism every day, and since you’re here on Lemmy, it’s statistically unlikely you’re beating people up.
The hell I do, and it’s the people beating me up - that’s how I know you’re full of shit. People beating people up is a permanent facet of humanity - it’s what makes them animals.
You don’t engage in anarchism? At all, ever? So in your group of friends, you have clearly established hierarchy? Do you go on a date with the assumption that one of you is in charge? Have you never gotten together with a group and discussed what’s best for you all, without one person being the leader?
Anarchism isn’t a lack of rules, or the strong beating the weak, or every person for themselves. Anarchism is rejection of cohersive authority. Anarchism is a thousand little things you do every day with everyone around you. You’ve definitely participated in anarchism, whether you want to admit you have or not. And no amount of protestation is going to change that.
I don’t have friends because assholes like you coerce others not be my friend - even threatening them with death if necessary.
I don’t go on dates - or even get near people - because you are all bloodthirsty bastards who enjoy torturing the “other”.
I’ve never been allowed into any group, because the leader of every group ordered his followers not to accept my humanity, and they slavishly obeyed. Because that’s an inherent facet of humanity - blindly believing and obeying what you’re told.
So, anarchism is being dead? Because that’s what happens when you reject authority - they fucking kill you. No exceptions; barely any delays.
The only way an individual does not die is to submit to a group that will protect the individual, and the minimum price for that protect is their free will. If the individual isn’t willing to be the group’s slave, why would the group ever accept the individual, when the only value any individual has for a group is their slave labor?
Damn man, I sympathize.
From the comments that you have been making it seems like you have a very negative view of other people and their ability to work together towards things that they both want (i.e. shared goals). This might be informed by your life experience and honestly, I’m sorry for what you have experienced that has led to such a negatively focused view.
I can’t convince you that anarchism can be good if you believe this staunchly. All I can say is that if you look at your surroundings you could find that people do this all the time.
An example I like to think about is driving. You know almost nothing about other drivers (how sane they are, where they are going, etc.) but we still drive and trust other drivers not to crash into us, and a majority of the time people are able to get to where they are going unharmed. This is an example of anarchy working in our everyday lives.
As for this, my philosophy is that as anarchists we should follow the ideas that are based on the paradox of tolerance.
If we want a tolerant society, we need to be intolerant of intolerant ideas, or else those intolerant ideas over time become the norm.
The same goes for freedom (which is what anarchists want for everyone)
If we want a free society, we need to resist people that want to dominate, or else everyone will be dominated.
What you’re deliberately ignoring is people “do this all the time” *to* dominate others. The primary purpose of forming social groups is to gang up and dominate everyone not in their social group - that’s what social groups are for. My entire life people have ganged up on me, beaten me up and used their social gatekeeping as the clenched hand around my neck, throttling my lifeblood with the publicly-announced intention of killing me.
Like hell I do. I drive defensively because I know others drive offensively.
I almost can’t go anywhere without at least some harm
People don’t crash into others because they fear being shafted by lawyers. The steel tetanus-coated rebar of corrupt law keeps the public in line.
Bullshit. You don’t actually believe this. You can’t, because you are the people dominating others. Each human being wishes to dominate others - that was proven when exactly zero people protected me against such domination as a child. You all agreed, to the last man, woman, and child, that I was supposed to be dominated as a necessary function of society; according to humanity not dominating me would “bring about the End Times”. You can’t “resist people that want to dominate” - that can only end in you killing yourselves.
I am sorry for the trauma you have suffered that has left you living in fear like this. I don’t expect you to believe me, but this really isn’t the world in which most of us live, it isn’t how things really are and it doesn’t have to be this way for you either.
Bullshit. It is how things are, and I’m sick and tired of being lied to by a species of buffoons who don’t care about facts who think me their inferior. Sure, you assholes don’t live in a world of hatred - but that’s because you belong to your social groups. You all decided that I was never allowed in any social group, and that I was to be preyed upon until some of you succeeded in killing me. Don’t lie to me and tell me this “isn’t how things really are” when you assholes confessed to setting out to make it this way. You have no place to tell me what is or isn’t when you consistently discard all facts and abuse everyone you can simply to stimulate your pleasure centers at all costs. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE! Quit lying to me by telling me different. Your actions will always tell the truth and prove your lies wrong.
Look, I have no idea who you are, I don’t know anything about you and we have never interacted before. You assuming that I’m part of some grand conspiracy makes it pretty clear to me that you are suffering from paranoid delusions. If you’re not getting it already, I strongly urge you to seek help, and I’m sorry if I riled you up.