Correct. The whole thing is lauded as this revolutionary new thing but in reality it’s just a bullshit VM isolated from the rest of the system. We have had that almost for as long as Android existed. Along with Termux and similar that actually can access everything.
The article is talking about storage space, not about access to files in any particular filesystem.
Previous versions of Android 15 Terminal app only allowed 16GB of space to be used by the guest system. The article mentions it.
So even if you had 128GB in your phone, previously you could only use 16GB of them in the environment Google set up for the Linux Terminal subsystem, which made it very limiting. What the article says is that now they are removing that limitation.
I am not sure I understand what this has to do with the article. Also, I don’t see why that would be the case. I don’t see much of a good reason to lock the VMs down.
Then I guess the root file system has never really been locked down? It was shipped stock, but they give you the option to “OEM unlock” and root. I know samsung locks their shit, but this is google that is relevant here
Yeah , I far as I know the pixel is the only Android phone that ships so you can unlock the boot loader. I installed GraphienOS, so I block or not use google accounts for anything on the phone.
The aspect ratio. It’s too damn narrow and it makes the phone look like a tv remote. They need to go a bit wider like Samsung. They do this stupid 20:9 aspect ratio. Watching YouTube sucks on it, too. Half of the video is just black bars because of the aspect ratio.
There nonstop chase after apple. They literally copy apple letter for letter in their phones’ hardware and software and it’s fucking disgusting. They are even now talking about removing the sound modes slider and replacing it with a button just like on the iPhone. They’re drooling over apple all the time and it’s pathetic. If I wanted an iPhone I’ll just get one. There is a reason why I went android.
Not really, several phones (bootloader) can be unlocked, but only the pixel and very few others can be relocked… That is important for maximum physical security.
Oh… You linked graphene os saying it has a 30 min tutorial how to root your device?
I tried magisk and patching the bootloader but doesn’t seem like anything happened after I used fastboot to load it on my device. When I figure it out I’ll do a write up because it shouldn’t be this difficult in 2025 I’d think, but maybe I’m just slow
Yeah thats my bad, I read the whole thread wrong. What I ment was, I unlocked the boot loader, installed a different OS and then was able to relock the boot loader. Sorry for the confusion, thats my fualt, I should learn to better lol
Press X to doubt.
The root filesystem will very likely still be locked down.
That’s not what this is about at all.
Yeah, but that means that not the entire storage is available like the headline implies.
VMs can’t ever do that on any OS. I don’t think that’s a reasonable expectation.
Correct. The whole thing is lauded as this revolutionary new thing but in reality it’s just a bullshit VM isolated from the rest of the system. We have had that almost for as long as Android existed. Along with Termux and similar that actually can access everything.
The article is talking about storage space, not about access to files in any particular filesystem.
Previous versions of Android 15 Terminal app only allowed 16GB of space to be used by the guest system. The article mentions it.
So even if you had 128GB in your phone, previously you could only use 16GB of them in the environment Google set up for the Linux Terminal subsystem, which made it very limiting. What the article says is that now they are removing that limitation.
I am not sure I understand what this has to do with the article. Also, I don’t see why that would be the case. I don’t see much of a good reason to lock the VMs down.
You can still root pixel phones no problem, no?
Yeah. I rooted my pixle 7pro a few weeks ago.
Then I guess the root file system has never really been locked down? It was shipped stock, but they give you the option to “OEM unlock” and root. I know samsung locks their shit, but this is google that is relevant here
Yeah , I far as I know the pixel is the only Android phone that ships so you can unlock the boot loader. I installed GraphienOS, so I block or not use google accounts for anything on the phone.
My OnePlus 12 has that option, too. It can be rooted just as easily.
Awesome! How do you like the OnePlus phones?
I love everything about them except two things:
The aspect ratio. It’s too damn narrow and it makes the phone look like a tv remote. They need to go a bit wider like Samsung. They do this stupid 20:9 aspect ratio. Watching YouTube sucks on it, too. Half of the video is just black bars because of the aspect ratio.
There nonstop chase after apple. They literally copy apple letter for letter in their phones’ hardware and software and it’s fucking disgusting. They are even now talking about removing the sound modes slider and replacing it with a button just like on the iPhone. They’re drooling over apple all the time and it’s pathetic. If I wanted an iPhone I’ll just get one. There is a reason why I went android.
Oh yeah , those are both super annoying.
Not really, several phones (bootloader) can be unlocked, but only the pixel and very few others can be relocked… That is important for maximum physical security.
Your right, that is what I was thinking of, relocking it
I’ve a pixel 7 running lineage is 22.2. I’ve seen some talk of magisk or twbp to root it but been too busy to dig into it.
You have any guide or video to spin me in the right direction? Thanks
This is what I did. Followed the instructions on the website, took me 30 minutes or so to get it set up and running.
https://grapheneos.org/
Does Graphene OS have root by default? I’m not seeing any documentation
I dont think so? I’m not sure
Oh… You linked graphene os saying it has a 30 min tutorial how to root your device?
I tried magisk and patching the bootloader but doesn’t seem like anything happened after I used fastboot to load it on my device. When I figure it out I’ll do a write up because it shouldn’t be this difficult in 2025 I’d think, but maybe I’m just slow
Yeah thats my bad, I read the whole thread wrong. What I ment was, I unlocked the boot loader, installed a different OS and then was able to relock the boot loader. Sorry for the confusion, thats my fualt, I should learn to better lol
Doesnt even give access to the camera subsystem’s embedded flash memory, essentially useless
/s?
that’d be useful to debloat the phones at the very least.