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  • @[email protected]
    9•9 days ago

    Interesting point! Had to look up some screenshots, but it does look like they were maybe trying to “bridge the gap” between the TOS and TNG-era Klingon look in that film, which I am going to be watching again after this meeting in order to verify.

    Even if it’s an intentional transitory look, I’ll agree that it’s still unique, and therefore counts. Great call.

    • @[email protected]English
      7•9 days ago

      I’d say there are up to 8 designs, depending on how much you want to nitpick:

      • TOS: Smooth. Unnaturally smooth.
      • TMP: Single column ridge with hair on either side. Behind the scenes the concept was that the spinal column continued up from the back all around the head.
      • TSFS: Ridges cover the forehead, are wider and flatter, and have a continuous hairline behind them. Female Klingons have substantially less pronounced ridges.
      • TUC: Chang has those same less pronounced ridges. Maybe it’s not a male/female thing. Or maybe Chang is trans?
      • TNG: Those less pronounced ridges are gone. Male and female Klingons both get roughly the same degree of lumpyness.
      • Kelvin: Ridges look flatter and more pleated. I don’t think we see any hair, but it’s been a while.
      • Disco: Coneheads, quadruple nostrils, and no hair.
      • Disco S2: Partial retcon as the Klingons start growing their hair in and the heads appear less conical.
      • Picard/SNW: Fully revert to the TNG era look. Doesn’t count since it isn’t a new design.
      • @[email protected]
        4•8 days ago

        Enterprise also had slightly different looking Klingons and IIRC addressed why (a genetic disorder or disease IIRC)

        • @[email protected]English
          3•8 days ago

          In Enterprise, they made an augment virus that went wrong, and to avoid going the way of the Illyrians, they made a cure, that basically turned them human/into the TOS Klingons.

        • @[email protected]English
          4•9 days ago

          Yeah, like I say, it’s pretty nitpicky. I’d probably collapse everything from TSFS to Kelvin into one, if I were being more lax. I don’t find the Kelvin design to be all that different from what came before, but I do find TMP to be really distinct in comparison. But I know some people who seem to be the exact opposite on that, so 🤷

    • @[email protected]English
      1•7 days ago

      Enterprise gave an arc why the Klingons looked a certain way in tos, they were affected by a virus

      • @[email protected]
        1•7 days ago

        I recall, but I don’t think it was in TOS, because Worf noted that it was not mentioned to outsiders in the DS9 tribble episode, a line used to hand-wave away the makeup change.

        • @[email protected]English
          1•6 days ago

          that was the time travel episode, when the defiant crew went back, and they were trying to find the tribble that was disguised as a bomb.

          • @[email protected]
            1•6 days ago

            Yes, I know.

            Not sure why I thought “TOS” when you wrote “Enterprise,” I do recall the virus explanation given in that series.