Your middle finger is only your middle finger if you also count your thumb as a finger. Which I find hard to accept. @showerthoughts 🖕

  • Zagorath
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    5221 days ago

    It’s pretty normal to count the thumb as a finger. I find it strange that you would not.

    If you were asked “how many fingers do you have”, would you answer 8, or 10? Surely, everyone knows the answer is 10 (assuming no physical abnormalities)? On a fingering chart, music will instruct you to play a note with your thumb with the number “1” and your pinky with the number “5”.

    • @[email protected]
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      321 days ago

      The whole concept of even having a middle finger is a bit arbitrary. When you put your hands on a table, all 10 fingers spread out, the gap between the hands is the exact middle. If you include all 10 fingers, there is no middle finger, but there is a middle gap.

      Andy why do we even count the fleshy fingers, when we could be counting the gaps between them? It’s the number of gaps that really matters when you’re holding on to a bunch of things like papers, magazines, forks, sticks, stones, strings, cables or whatever.

      • Zagorath
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        2621 days ago

        Sure, but we don’t say you have one middle finger, we talk about the two middle fingers. As in, one per hand. It’s not the middle of all your fingers, it’s the middle of the fingers on that hand.

        We don’t count the gabs because that’s…not how counting things works. When delivering a bag of apples, you don’t count how many gaps between apples there are, you count the number of apples. You have to know that your second paragraph here is a stretch that would make a Republican lawmaker seem sensible, don’t you?

          • Zagorath
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            220 days ago

            Not a comparison I use lightly, I assure you.

            Maybe that one politician a while back who wanted to redefine pi to equal 4 would be on this level.

            • @[email protected]
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              320 days ago

              Why leave Pi to mathematicians rather than democratically-ish elected leaders? Pi is far to important to be left outside of democracys sphere of influence

      • @[email protected]
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        521 days ago

        You take one hand and count with the thumb as 1 and the pinky as 5 and the middle number is 3. If you switch and start with the pinky as 1 and the thumb as 5 the middle finger is still the middle number. Talking about the gaps can be useful but anatomically we name things for what’s there and what’s not there and we talk about fingers much more than we talk about the gaps

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        521 days ago

        Andy why do we even count the fleshy fingers, when we could be counting the gaps between them?

        Each finger is conveniently split into 3 parts. Using 8 fingers we can count to 24 without resorting to any fancy math.

        • @[email protected]
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          321 days ago

          That’s the point most westerners seem to miss. There are so many ways to use fingers to count, while the one common in Europe the simplest one possible. It’s like demo version, while some other countries get the full pro ultra max edition.

          • Zagorath
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            620 days ago

            There are so many ways to use fingers to count, while the one common in Europe the simplest one possible

            But this isn’t about counting on fingers. It’s about counting fingers. As in, the fingers themselves are what’s being counted when you talk about your “middle finger”.

            • Cethin
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              119 days ago

              I wouldn’t. It’s easy, people just haven’t learned it. It takes probably all of a minute to teach someone to count in binary with their fingers.

              • @[email protected]
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                319 days ago

                If they are already familiar with binary, sure.

                There are 10 types of people. Those that understand binary and those that don’t.

                • Cethin
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                  219 days ago

                  I’m willing to bet I could teach someone how to count in binary on their fingers who doesn’t know binary in five minutes or less. They don’t need to know it’s binary. It’s just a simple rule that you add one and if that finger is up it instead goes down and the next goes up. They don’t need to know more than that. Then they just work backwards to get the final count. Knowing this is binary can be helpful, but it isn’t a prerequisite.

        • ✺roguetrick✺
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          321 days ago

          Actually can count to 144 or a gross if you use base 12. One hand for the ones place and the other hand for the dozens.