So I looked into this more and basically Darth is a title given to sith lords, others have had it like Darth tyranus and Darth sidious, but here is the kicker.
Darth Vader’s fatherhood was only conceived of after the character was introduced in empire strikes back, so the name was not necessarily related to fatherhood in the story and the only reason I could think of for it existing is just because it sounded cool.
A possible reason could be that Darth is a combo of dark and death and Vader is possibly short for invader.
Otherwise I’m not sure if there is any clear reason for the name that is undeniably the reason for the name.
Lucas famously make things up as he went, and retconned many things along the way.
Originally Luke’s sister was a yet to be introduced character, not Leia. The film titled “Star Wars” was retroactively changed to become Episode 4. Han Solo was frozen at the end of one of the films because he wasn’t sure if Harrison Ford would be back. They even changed the voice of Vader in post production, and the original actor found out when he watched the premiere. If you watch the prequels and original trilogy back to back there are glaring potholes. You can’t even officially get the original versions of the movies because Lucas doesn’t want them to be available.
Here’s just one breakdown I’ve found by googling. Some of these can be justified by making up theories of characters lying or making mistakes, others are clearly for the fact that they forgot details from the OT while they were writing the PT and contradicted themselves.
Potholes aside, my favourite dumb thing is that in the OT Obi-Wan was wearing farmers clothes to blend in, you can see uncle Owen wearing matching clothes. But the in PT that’s apparently the Jedi uniform. Not very smart to hide out in Tatooine wearing Jedi uniform, going by the name Kenobi, and looking after a kid called Skywalker. R2D2 didn’t think to mention Anakin to Luke? Or is Skywalker the “Smith” of that galaxy’s surnames?
Regarding that very last part of your comment (about R2D2), his and C-3PO’s memory is erased at the end of EPIII by orders of Sen. Organa, so I think that’d explain it.
I hate it when people act like this. You know there is a mythology in Star Wars and you know that is what people are discussing but instead you are taking a meta shit over everything. Find a better hobby.
A common story, but not true. When Lucas was filming Star Wars he hadn’t yet had the idea that Vader was Luke’s father, hence the clumsy retcon about Vader killing Luke’s father ‘from a certain point of view’ in Return of the Jedi. Vader is just shortened ‘invader’, the dutch translation is just serendipity (or proof that the force is real).
Darth is dark in German. Vader is Dutch for father (Vater is German for father).
George Lucas actually named Darth Vader. The content in the movies is made up.
“Dark Father”; he was given the name for fairly obvious reasons by George Lucas I would think.
So I looked into this more and basically Darth is a title given to sith lords, others have had it like Darth tyranus and Darth sidious, but here is the kicker.
Darth Vader’s fatherhood was only conceived of after the character was introduced in empire strikes back, so the name was not necessarily related to fatherhood in the story and the only reason I could think of for it existing is just because it sounded cool.
A possible reason could be that Darth is a combo of dark and death and Vader is possibly short for invader.
Otherwise I’m not sure if there is any clear reason for the name that is undeniably the reason for the name.
Right, but George Lucas already knew the story and he’s the one that named him.
Lucas famously make things up as he went, and retconned many things along the way.
Originally Luke’s sister was a yet to be introduced character, not Leia. The film titled “Star Wars” was retroactively changed to become Episode 4. Han Solo was frozen at the end of one of the films because he wasn’t sure if Harrison Ford would be back. They even changed the voice of Vader in post production, and the original actor found out when he watched the premiere. If you watch the prequels and original trilogy back to back there are glaring potholes. You can’t even officially get the original versions of the movies because Lucas doesn’t want them to be available.
Emphasis on “officially”. Fortunately we have Harmy Despecialized and 4k77.
Would you mind shortly elaborating on the plot holes ?
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Original-Trilogy-vs-The-Prequels-inconsistencies-retcons-plot-holes-and-discrepancies/id/90199
Here’s just one breakdown I’ve found by googling. Some of these can be justified by making up theories of characters lying or making mistakes, others are clearly for the fact that they forgot details from the OT while they were writing the PT and contradicted themselves.
Potholes aside, my favourite dumb thing is that in the OT Obi-Wan was wearing farmers clothes to blend in, you can see uncle Owen wearing matching clothes. But the in PT that’s apparently the Jedi uniform. Not very smart to hide out in Tatooine wearing Jedi uniform, going by the name Kenobi, and looking after a kid called Skywalker. R2D2 didn’t think to mention Anakin to Luke? Or is Skywalker the “Smith” of that galaxy’s surnames?
Thanks !
Regarding that very last part of your comment (about R2D2), his and C-3PO’s memory is erased at the end of EPIII by orders of Sen. Organa, so I think that’d explain it.
C-3PO had his memory wiped, but I don’t think R2D2 did. At one point George Lucas said that the whole saga was a story told by R2D2.
Regardless, why did so many characters that had personally worked alongside R2D2 act like it was just a random droid? Robo-racism?
I hate it when people act like this. You know there is a mythology in Star Wars and you know that is what people are discussing but instead you are taking a meta shit over everything. Find a better hobby.
You’ve gone too far. Take that back right now.
I have never seen “Darth” or anything similar used to mean dark in german. If that’s a thing it’s something both old and obcure.
I second this. Dark would be “dunkel” in (modern day) German.
Me when I lie on the internet
So it means Black Daddy?
A common story, but not true. When Lucas was filming Star Wars he hadn’t yet had the idea that Vader was Luke’s father, hence the clumsy retcon about Vader killing Luke’s father ‘from a certain point of view’ in Return of the Jedi. Vader is just shortened ‘invader’, the dutch translation is just serendipity (or proof that the force is real).