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technically literate to install a custom rom with a computer’s command prompt
willing to give up bank apps and sometimes phone based payment
even just considering the first point, it is really not just “some” effort. sure we can do it, but this is a very small bubble.
I think it’s comparable to replacing the windows on your house all by yourself, from selection, across acquisition and taking out the old one, to installing the new one nicely and with insulation.
counterpoint is 1) about grapheneos, a rom with extremely limited device support, so it is not at all representative of how easy it is to install, and 2) uses a browser tge privacy community advises to steer clear of for good reason.
also the webusb permission is very dangerous, because most people were literally trained by the advertising industry to always click allow and agree mindlessly, so I would not recommend anyone to make use of that, or any browser that supports it. and it is not only dangerous because of the unintended allowings.
in counterpoint 2) you make an assumption as big as portugal, which I also addressed above. lineageos and most other roms won’t pass the Google Approval safetynet check, and lots of apps will refuse to work. banking apps, DRM-based apps like netflix, even some work related apps in my country
Yeah, that’s why I don’t like people saying it’s “GOS or nothing”.
Actually, it’s sadly not “basically every phone” - some brands make bootloader unlocking hard or very complicated. And my old phone was one of such, not even in the list of supported devices.
Indeed that’s why people should learn from it and not buy such crap in the future. If it’s not a lineage official supported device next step is xda forums for a rom. And if its really bad at least root the stock one and remove/block the worst of it. I rarely seen a phone where there is nothing to do at all but the junk heap
I don’t have one. GOS
ok, but that’s not what most people on this world use. they are basically stuck with a rom that has google services integrated
Yes but internet exist so they are not stuck if they actually put some effort in. Unfortunately people don’t care the way they should.
most people are not
even just considering the first point, it is really not just “some” effort. sure we can do it, but this is a very small bubble.
I think it’s comparable to replacing the windows on your house all by yourself, from selection, across acquisition and taking out the old one, to installing the new one nicely and with insulation.
Counterpoint 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywo-NT8K6B4&t=100
Counterpoint 2 You don’t. I use a bunch of them from different countries and crappy builds. GPay sure , just get a case with a cardholder
counterpoint is 1) about grapheneos, a rom with extremely limited device support, so it is not at all representative of how easy it is to install, and 2) uses a browser tge privacy community advises to steer clear of for good reason.
also the webusb permission is very dangerous, because most people were literally trained by the advertising industry to always click allow and agree mindlessly, so I would not recommend anyone to make use of that, or any browser that supports it. and it is not only dangerous because of the unintended allowings.
in counterpoint 2) you make an assumption as big as portugal, which I also addressed above. lineageos and most other roms won’t pass the Google Approval safetynet check, and lots of apps will refuse to work. banking apps, DRM-based apps like netflix, even some work related apps in my country
though I’ll keep that advice in mind
Or
Used phones exist. GOS is not the only option either. So basically any phone can be improved with at least lineage.
Yeah, that’s why I don’t like people saying it’s “GOS or nothing”.
Actually, it’s sadly not “basically every phone” - some brands make bootloader unlocking hard or very complicated. And my old phone was one of such, not even in the list of supported devices.
Indeed that’s why people should learn from it and not buy such crap in the future. If it’s not a lineage official supported device next step is xda forums for a rom. And if its really bad at least root the stock one and remove/block the worst of it. I rarely seen a phone where there is nothing to do at all but the junk heap