The DNC cited a procedural concern, but Hogg said it is “impossible to ignore the broader context” of his criticisms.

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    I agree they both are fed by the same oligarchs. And I agree that the fascism of the Democrats have killed people.

    But you can’t say the difference is non-existent. Was Biden or Kamala going to start shipping citizens over El Salvador? I think not and arguing that the two parties are the same is very silly.

    Also thanks to first pass the post not voting for Democrats is giving more power to Republicans. Whose fascism will kill way more than the Democratic fascism.

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        So your argument is Biden deported more people. Ok, I don’t disagree with those articles. Now that it is May, I wonder what the numbers are and if they are comparable. Also, Trump isn’t deporting less because he is pro immigration. He is deporting less because of skill issues on his part. If he could he would deport 5 times as many people as Biden. Again, I am not saying the Dems are saints here.

        But lets say I give you that. Biden is worse on immigration. Do you have articles on Biden doing unitary executive theory? Do you have articles on Biden deporting innocent US citizens? How about articles about how Bidens head of health and human services is targeting all autistic people? Biden arresting judges? The bad stuff the Democrats do the Republican party also does and more. We are very close to losing habeas corpus in the US.

        The shift to fascism has rapidly accelerated in the US since the republicans have taken office and I just don’t see that same acceleration with the Dems. I am trying to understand how you could seriously compare the two parties and say they are equivalent, but I don’t see it. Right now, the only thing that makes sense to me is that you are a Republican and you want people to not vote in elections because that benefits Republicans. You don’t seem like that kind of person though, so, can you help me understand?

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          LoL. I wasn’t asking if you disagree. The math is the math. But oh how very gracious of you to give me that! And you gave away your whole game when you moved the goals posts, and hand-waved Biden’s mass deportation record as Trump having a “skill issue.”

          It’s actually that the media, the party, and people like you go to sleep when a Democrat is in charge, and they get away with doing whatever the fuck they want. Y’all straight up don’t give a shit, so long as it’s a Democrat crime.

          Fuck off, troll.

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            14 days ago

            Ok, so you have very specific secret reasons why we shouldn’t vote for the lesser evil, or you are just a Republican troll.

            I guess that is the best I can do.

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              LoL. Democrats commit genocide, set records deporting, privatize the social safety net, escalate multiple war fronts with nuclear superpowers, confirm Trump appointees, fund Trump’s fascism… and you think it’s some great mystery why anyone would oppose the “lesser evil” voting strategy?

              You’ve got your head so far up your ass that you look like a walking Klein bottle.

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                04 days ago

                Yes, all of that is bad. And the Republicans do all of that too. And the Republicans do more. The history has been pretty clear here.

                Most people’s position is that Republicans are worse than Democrats. The people who are accelerationists don’t deny that. You on the other hand are taking the psychotic position that both parties are the same.

                I’m now leaning towards you’re a Republican troll.

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                    14 days ago

                    Ohh, ok.

                    Well, unfortunately, if the Democrats have secretly been keeping pace with Republicans the last 20 years. They have been extremely competent at keeping that a secret. A competence I haven’t seen them have in most other things they do.

                    I can’t refute this claim because it is unprovable either way. So, we can’t really have a discussion if we don’t agree on the facts.

                    Have a good one.