My understanding is more that it presents a “logically correct” choice (making money to pay bills and be generally… alive) and a “socially correct” choice (the corporate answer) to filter people out.
I don’t disagree, I just also believe that the people who don’t know what the expected answer is are proportionally more likely to be on the spectrum than not.
Not that I necessarily think they’re trying to discriminate against people with autism giving blood, but there’s one of these on the blood donation intake questionnaire.
Intake Questionnaire: In the last year, have you used any illegal drugs via needle injection?
Me: No.
IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who uses illegal drugs via needle injection?
Me (married): Well, it’s not as if I can keep an eye on my wife 24/7… you know what, I’m just going to mark it No.
IQ: In the last year, have you had sex for money?
Me: No.
IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who has had sex for money?
Me: I’M TELLING YOU, I CAN’T KEEP AN EYE ON HER AT ALL TIMES, SO FUNDAMENTALLY I CANNOT GIVE A CERTAIN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION!
You can’t even say the same thing about yourself. Maybe you have a form of sleepwalking where you unknowingly wander off at night and become a heroin user, turning tricks to pay for it.
Well in the case of blood donation it’s more about not taking/giving blood thzt might have ISTs.
The questions you listes are “interesting” but i think something closer to the issue here (i.e filtering out people out of bigottry) would be like “in the last 4 months have you had sex with someone of the dame sex ?”
I don’t watch her 24 hours a day! I can’t say, with certainty, that she doesn’t transform into a dragon and fight gremlins in a parallel dimension when I’m not around! It’s a fundamentally impossible question to answer, short of “To the best of my knowledge…”
That one at least has a reasonably understandable medical purpose, all donated blood is tested for the kinds of diseases that these questions are meant to attmpt to screen for, and any amount of testing that can be avoided early saves them more money to spend on other lifesaving pursuits.
Not really, in this case the more literally you read the question the better. It asks what responsibility you acquire when you have a job not why you got the job.
yep when I applied to work at target a few years ago, there should have been absolutely no reason for them to not consider me but I took that thiny veiled screening test and wow I suddenly don’t get a response.
Yep quite a few years back I had two jobs lined up , already got the first but the second one wanted a second interview after I filled in a 50 page personality test. I felt the first offer would be interesting and better paid but wanted to see what they offered. So I said why not just be completely honest instead of faking it :) very interesting interview, I just told them that whoever sold them this idea was probably a very good salesman. The tool is just pointless.
I got to much risk taking etc , yea I like skydiving… I’m not skydiving at work. … if you want people to bullshit you it’s pretty good though haha
This is absolutely the case. In the documentary “The Fog of War” (a great documentary IMO) Robert McNamara explains how he helped create a personality test to screen applicants for Ford (I think it was them).
One of the questions was “Would you rather be a coal miner or a florist?”. McNamara says his family had owned a florist but the answer they wanted coal miner. For “obvious reasons”.
“Yeah I want to be a coal miner. I want to fuck up my health, the health of the environment, the health of anyone nearby, all just to make somebody else a profit with a product that is more expensive than the clean alternatives”
I’ve heard these described as a “legally acceptable way of filtering out people with autism” and man I’ve not seen them the same way since.
In what way? Are autistic people more likely to value company profits over personal goals?
My understanding is more that it presents a “logically correct” choice (making money to pay bills and be generally… alive) and a “socially correct” choice (the corporate answer) to filter people out.
No, but they’re more likely to answer honestly (that they get a job for wage).
I think it would just filter people who know what the correct answer is supposed to be.
I don’t disagree, I just also believe that the people who don’t know what the expected answer is are proportionally more likely to be on the spectrum than not.
in my experience, I’m the autistic one, and I have to explain it to the normies what’s going on with these kinds of questions.
Truth is irrelevant.
Innocence proves nothing.
Being right doesn’t matter.
Masking takes care of this, but possibly not for all.
Not that I necessarily think they’re trying to discriminate against people with autism giving blood, but there’s one of these on the blood donation intake questionnaire.
Intake Questionnaire: In the last year, have you used any illegal drugs via needle injection?
Me: No.
IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who uses illegal drugs via needle injection?
Me (married): Well, it’s not as if I can keep an eye on my wife 24/7… you know what, I’m just going to mark it No.
IQ: In the last year, have you had sex for money?
Me: No.
IQ: In the last year, have you had sex with anyone who has had sex for money?
Me: I’M TELLING YOU, I CAN’T KEEP AN EYE ON HER AT ALL TIMES, SO FUNDAMENTALLY I CANNOT GIVE A CERTAIN ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION!
You can’t even say the same thing about yourself. Maybe you have a form of sleepwalking where you unknowingly wander off at night and become a heroin user, turning tricks to pay for it.
ok this one is kinda funny
Well in the case of blood donation it’s more about not taking/giving blood thzt might have ISTs.
The questions you listes are “interesting” but i think something closer to the issue here (i.e filtering out people out of bigottry) would be like “in the last 4 months have you had sex with someone of the dame sex ?”
Sounds like you need to improve your communication with your wife about her potential IV drug use and extramarital affairs.
I don’t watch her 24 hours a day! I can’t say, with certainty, that she doesn’t transform into a dragon and fight gremlins in a parallel dimension when I’m not around! It’s a fundamentally impossible question to answer, short of “To the best of my knowledge…”
…now I want to hear more about what kind of gremlins a dragon fights…
That one at least has a reasonably understandable medical purpose, all donated blood is tested for the kinds of diseases that these questions are meant to attmpt to screen for, and any amount of testing that can be avoided early saves them more money to spend on other lifesaving pursuits.
Not really, in this case the more literally you read the question the better. It asks what responsibility you acquire when you have a job not why you got the job.
That explains a LOT.
yep when I applied to work at target a few years ago, there should have been absolutely no reason for them to not consider me but I took that thiny veiled screening test and wow I suddenly don’t get a response.
fuck corpos man
I have had a theory that the personality tests are just to have an excuse to discriminate with plausible deniability.
Yep quite a few years back I had two jobs lined up , already got the first but the second one wanted a second interview after I filled in a 50 page personality test. I felt the first offer would be interesting and better paid but wanted to see what they offered. So I said why not just be completely honest instead of faking it :) very interesting interview, I just told them that whoever sold them this idea was probably a very good salesman. The tool is just pointless. I got to much risk taking etc , yea I like skydiving… I’m not skydiving at work. … if you want people to bullshit you it’s pretty good though haha
This is absolutely the case. In the documentary “The Fog of War” (a great documentary IMO) Robert McNamara explains how he helped create a personality test to screen applicants for Ford (I think it was them).
One of the questions was “Would you rather be a coal miner or a florist?”. McNamara says his family had owned a florist but the answer they wanted coal miner. For “obvious reasons”.
“Yeah I want to be a coal miner. I want to fuck up my health, the health of the environment, the health of anyone nearby, all just to make somebody else a profit with a product that is more expensive than the clean alternatives”
I don’t think the reason is obvious at all. Is it because coal mining is hard work?
I think it was a clumsy attempt to filter out gay men.
Lol. Homophobes are funny. Thanks for the explanation.