• IninewCrow
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    2 days ago

    Boomer logic … “I want all the benefits, entitlements and supports of society and none of the responsibilities.”

    • thedruid
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      72 days ago

      Trumper logic, you don’t own what you own, and you need to either pay more or give it up., and fuck you us wanting nice things

      This is the type of shit destroying us as well.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 days ago

      Alright, so you’re a young gen z family and you buy your first home, which is all you can afford right now, you’re young and you’re starting your careers and your family.

      In 10 years, property values have increased dramatically, and you’ve had a child and you’re thinking about your second. Your careers are going well, and you think we should maybe get a bigger place for our expanding family. But oh no, there’s an unsustainable housing marketing bubble that refuses to burst, so you can’t afford a bigger place anywhere near your job. So you build UP, like they do in every multi-generational home culture, you expand your living space as your family expands.

      It’s not a crime or a moral failure to upgrade your home, and you shouldn’t jump at the opportunity to beat someone when they’re down just because you don’t empathize with this particular boomer homeowner.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 day ago

        This Boomer homeowner is why those Gen Z families can’t find homes. If your single family home is worth $4 million, that is the market telling you that that single family home should not exist. The land is too in demand, too close to jobs, too close to amenities etc. to have that lot hoarded by a single selfish person. You want to live in a single family home on a quarter acre lot? Fine. Do it on the edge of the city where the land is cheap. This women’s lost could provide homes for a dozen families, at prices that would be affordable to Gen Z families. Instead people like her vote to prevent such redevelopment.

      • @[email protected]
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        72 days ago

        I mean, bullshit strategies and apparent entitled attitude aside, she does have a point. $90k is an absurd property tax rate for a single family home.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 days ago

          That’s right! Why should rich people who own very high value assets have to pay more in taxes! That’s like woke dei socialism.

        • @[email protected]
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          292 days ago

          Did you see the photo in the article? It’s a ‘single-family home’ in the way a Mercedes SUV is a minivan.

          I mean, yah, housing is way too fuckimg expensive. But that is very definitely not a no-frills family home.

            • @[email protected]
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              52 days ago

              If it costs $90k for a $4 million home then a $1 million home would be taxed at $22.5k. That’s still half a years salary at median wages for an average priced home in many markets. Don’t let your hatred for rich people lead you to advocating for shitty policies.

              • @[email protected]
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                42 days ago

                a $1 million home [… is …] an average priced home in many markets

                I’m going with this is the actual problem.

                Also, your math assumes a flat tax rate, and any decent tax system is progressive. I don’t know how Florida’s works, but again, actual problems.

                • @[email protected]
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                  22 days ago

                  Inflated home values are a huge part of the problem. That’s a large part of the point I’m making. At face value it seems fine to say “they have a $4 million home, they can afford the property taxes” but if you apply the same rate to the homes that average people have to buy you’re going to end up in a shitty spot. If taxing the rich is the goal we shouldn’t be talking about property taxes on single family homes unless it’s specifically related to second and third homes.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    32 days ago

                    Seeing as most homes increased by about 400% in the last 10-15 years in that area, while wages increases negligibly, I feel they have a point. On the other hand, it is difficult for most people, myself included, to garner sympathy when you see someone with a 4.4 million dollar home.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    21 day ago

                    If the land your single family home is sitting on is suddenly worth four million dollars, that’s a sure sign that that plot of land should NOT be used for single family zoning. It’s doubtlessly some of the most valuable land in the city, close to job centers and lots of community resources. That kind of land should be used for multi family housing. Quit hoarding it so you can live your Leave it to Beaver fantasy in the middle of a built up urban area.

                    Not quoting you specifically here but the general vibe of this owner:

                    “But I want to live as a rancher in the middle of Manhattan. I demand we warp the tax laws to enable it.”

                    Get the fuck out of here, you entitled fuck.

                • @[email protected]
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                  12 days ago

                  Not that it changes your point, but Florida’s property tax is not progressive in any of the areas that I lived.

          • @[email protected]
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            32 days ago

            I don’t think it matters what the house looks like. That’s a ridiculous amount for any single home. I understand the desire to tax the rich but there are better ways to accomplish that than jacking up property taxes for everyone, especially when inflationary housing costs are a simultaneous concern.

            • @[email protected]
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              21 day ago

              The solution is to demolish the home and build multi-family housing there. Low density single family zoning has no place in an area where the land values are that expensive. Keep that kind of development on the urban fringe where it belongs.