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    What do you think indigenous folks opinion is of this?

    Headline calls El capitan “iconic” but a better word is “sacred” and this is just white people behaviour

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      131 month ago

      I think permanently carving the faces of a bunch of genocidal slave owners into an indigenous people’s sacred mountain, is infinitely more offensive than a marginalized group temporarily putting up a flag.

      Indigenous folks opinions about the pride flag protest are most certainly varied. Collapsing all indigenous Peoples has having a single opinion is the real white people behavior.

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          101 month ago

          I don’t understand what has you so upset about this. El Capitan was not defaced. The flag is no longer there and left no lasting traces.

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              71 month ago

              There is no right place to people who don’t like the message, and that’s the only reason for your opposition.

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                21 month ago

                I have no problem with the message at all.

                Reminds me of the time runescape did a pride parade and everyone got mad because we are there to enjoy a game and escape from this for a bit, not because we oppose it in any way.

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                    I’ve bagged more summits than anyone in this thread

                    Also I own my house so I’m posting from my own basement thanks

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                  Reminds me of the time runescape did a pride parade and everyone got mad because we are there to enjoy a game and escape from this for a bit,

                  define “this” precisely and choose your words carefully

                  not because we oppose it in any way.

                  Forces of oppression are composed of self-deception, lay your core values bare and let people decide for themselves.

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                  61 month ago

                  You have no problem with the message except that it exists.

                  Just like your only problem with trans people is that they exist.

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              121 month ago

              There is no “right place” for protest. You’re arguing for the status quo. Protest is supposed to make people uncomfortable.

              “I know I’m right.” That’s childish talk.

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      61 month ago

      Climbing it for fun is also “white people behavior.” You can’t really use an argument like that without considering what the base level of climbing it at all also means. This is an argument in made in bad faith. Either climbing it for fun is already a violation of it being sacred, in which case how is this any worse, or it isn’t, in which case how is this any worse?

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          41 month ago

          I this way, yes, it is. Yes, native people also probably climbed it, but it was spiritually significant, not for Instagram pictures or whatever.

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              21 month ago

              I do it for fun. It’s a “white person thing” if hanging a flag is.

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                Based on what you’ve said I doubt you do it much at all

                native people also probably climbed it

                lol. No bro they decorated it with colourful objects

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                  Based on what you’ve said I doubt you do it much at all

                  I’m an eagle scout. I’ve done a fair amount of hiking/backpacking/etc.

                  lol. No bro they decorated it with colourful objects

                  Who are you talking about? Native people or these modern people? Both of the have, although the modern people removed theirs when they were done. I don’t have an issue with native people decorating rocks though.