The group of LGBTQ activist climbers said the flag, which is 55 feet by 35 feet, is the largest ever displayed on the face of the world-famous rock climbing destination.
I think permanently carving the faces of a bunch of genocidal slave owners into an indigenous people’s sacred mountain, is infinitely more offensive than a marginalized group temporarily putting up a flag.
Indigenous folks opinions about the pride flag protest are most certainly varied. Collapsing all indigenous Peoples has having a single opinion is the real white people behavior.
Reminds me of the time runescape did a pride parade and everyone got mad because we are there to enjoy a game and escape from this for a bit, not because we oppose it in any way.
Climbing it for fun is also “white people behavior.” You can’t really use an argument like that without considering what the base level of climbing it at all also means. This is an argument in made in bad faith. Either climbing it for fun is already a violation of it being sacred, in which case how is this any worse, or it isn’t, in which case how is this any worse?
Based on what you’ve said I doubt you do it much at all
I’m an eagle scout. I’ve done a fair amount of hiking/backpacking/etc.
lol. No bro they decorated it with colourful objects
Who are you talking about? Native people or these modern people? Both of the have, although the modern people removed theirs when they were done. I don’t have an issue with native people decorating rocks though.
What do you think indigenous folks opinion is of this?
Headline calls El capitan “iconic” but a better word is “sacred” and this is just white people behaviour
I think permanently carving the faces of a bunch of genocidal slave owners into an indigenous people’s sacred mountain, is infinitely more offensive than a marginalized group temporarily putting up a flag.
Indigenous folks opinions about the pride flag protest are most certainly varied. Collapsing all indigenous Peoples has having a single opinion is the real white people behavior.
Oh yeah Mount Rushmore is a disgrace, obviously not even close to the same level
Indigenous folks understand protesting for marginalized people, I’d wager.
I’d wager in this case you are wrong but unfortunately nobody asked them as per usual
You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about
You likely have never even climbed a mountain lol
Even if that were true it wouldn’t make your opinion any less stupid, but also you’re wrong lol
I don’t understand what has you so upset about this. El Capitan was not defaced. The flag is no longer there and left no lasting traces.
I’m just pointing out that it’s not the place for this and I know I’m right
There is no right place to people who don’t like the message, and that’s the only reason for your opposition.
I have no problem with the message at all.
Reminds me of the time runescape did a pride parade and everyone got mad because we are there to enjoy a game and escape from this for a bit, not because we oppose it in any way.
And there it is. Fuck off, homophobe.
Climb the stairs out of your momma’s basement and go touch grass.
I’ve bagged more summits than anyone in this thread
Also I own my house so I’m posting from my own basement thanks
define “this” precisely and choose your words carefully
Forces of oppression are composed of self-deception, lay your core values bare and let people decide for themselves.
You have no problem with the message except that it exists.
Just like your only problem with trans people is that they exist.
You don’t know anything about me.
There is no “right place” for protest. You’re arguing for the status quo. Protest is supposed to make people uncomfortable.
“I know I’m right.” That’s childish talk.
Climbing it for fun is also “white people behavior.” You can’t really use an argument like that without considering what the base level of climbing it at all also means. This is an argument in made in bad faith. Either climbing it for fun is already a violation of it being sacred, in which case how is this any worse, or it isn’t, in which case how is this any worse?
Lol climbing mountains is literally not white people behaviour
Flying flags is
I this way, yes, it is. Yes, native people also probably climbed it, but it was spiritually significant, not for Instagram pictures or whatever.
I climb for spiritual reasons and not for Instagram lol
I do it for fun. It’s a “white person thing” if hanging a flag is.
Based on what you’ve said I doubt you do it much at all
lol. No bro they decorated it with colourful objects
I’m an eagle scout. I’ve done a fair amount of hiking/backpacking/etc.
Who are you talking about? Native people or these modern people? Both of the have, although the modern people removed theirs when they were done. I don’t have an issue with native people decorating rocks though.
They have their own transgender called two-spirit so they’d be fine with it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That’s actually disputed among historians
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The term “two spirit” is iffy, but there 100% were third/multiple genders in many indigenous societies.
We have pictures of We’Wha for example.
I’m Choctaw ish, wasn’t raised in it but there’s conceptions of third genders in Choctaw and Chickasaw cultures.