@Radical_EgoCom@protestation I think I’m about done. Dude just ignores my arguments and continues spouting the inane racist nonsense that’s getting to me more than it ought to. I guess it just feels like a betrayal.
They all have fully developed capitalist economies. A hell of a lot more developed than Germany was in Marx’s time. Get that through your head, and call me back.
One can absolutely create a society where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy without being a fully developed Capitalist country. “Full-development” itself is a misnomer, anyways, as analysis of Monopoly Capitalism has shown, Imperialist countries actually become less industrially developed, and would need to develop more, meaning over-development of Capitalism actually becomes a hinderance.
Moreover, we have seen Socialism works in the real world. Countries like the PRC are regularly making massive improvements while western countries sink and decay as Imperialism dies. Markets can be a useful tool, sure, but markets can exist in the context of an economy driven by public ownership, meaning Capital isn’t a major risk of overthrowing the system. Again, lessons from China.
@protestation
Trying to create socialism in a poor country that doesn’t have a fully developed capitalist economy doesn’t work.
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@Radical_EgoCom @protestation I think I’m about done. Dude just ignores my arguments and continues spouting the inane racist nonsense that’s getting to me more than it ought to. I guess it just feels like a betrayal.
They all have fully developed capitalist economies. A hell of a lot more developed than Germany was in Marx’s time. Get that through your head, and call me back.
They made similar errors 3 months ago over here on the Lemmy space.
One can absolutely create a society where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy without being a fully developed Capitalist country. “Full-development” itself is a misnomer, anyways, as analysis of Monopoly Capitalism has shown, Imperialist countries actually become less industrially developed, and would need to develop more, meaning over-development of Capitalism actually becomes a hinderance.
Moreover, we have seen Socialism works in the real world. Countries like the PRC are regularly making massive improvements while western countries sink and decay as Imperialism dies. Markets can be a useful tool, sure, but markets can exist in the context of an economy driven by public ownership, meaning Capital isn’t a major risk of overthrowing the system. Again, lessons from China.