Some worry that New York City’s crackdown on unsafe cyclists leaves them facing greater consequences than drivers, even though cars cause more fatalities.
Some worry that New York City’s crackdown on unsafe cyclists leaves them facing greater consequences than drivers, even though cars cause more fatalities.
These are E-bikes we’re talking about. They can be quite fast. Some can do 50-60 even. Killing people is certainly possible. Requiring both to obey traffic signals, isn’t unreasonable.
I’ll take a hit from an ebike over a speeding car any day of the week
I would take a hit from a jogger over a person on an ebike any day of the week.
I’ll take a hit from the bong over a jogger any day of the week.
Pretty sure in the EU they are supposed to be limited to 25kmh, which is the upper speed limit for bike lanes too
They don’t so much have a speed limit but they’re required to stop giving you a boost at 25 km/h. Anything that uses a motor to go faster needs a license plate and everything.
At least in Germany bike lanes don’t have a speed limit, you can drive as fast as you want as long as it’s safe, you’re in control, etc. Especially relevant when going downhill.
Sunday or leisurely drivers will go 10 to 25km/h, when you’re fit, the road surface is good and the bike built for it sustaining 35km/h isn’t much of an issue, fastest I ever went on my mountain bike with semi-slicks (so no racing transmission but no unnecessary friction losses either), on flat ground, was 38km/h. But that’s pushing it for the sake of pushing it, my average top speed is just over 30. No lycra, no race bike.
Speed-pedelecs are allowed to go 45kmh and are allowed both on bike lanes and car lanes in the Netherlands. They have a license plate as well, looks like a regular ebike.
In that case the Netherlands is ignoring EU law, which now very clearly defines a regular e-bike: 25km/h, 250W max output, no throttle.
PS: clarification - if they have a license plate then obviously they’re not regular e-bikes. Seems to me crazy to just allow them in bike lanes.
This is the same as in Belgium, where the faster e-bikes are counted as light mopeds. Max speed of 45km/h, and they must use the bike lane whenever the road speed limit exceeds 50km/h, and the road if not. Most of our city centers are 30km/h speed limit, which also counts for these e-bikes, just as all other motorized traffic.
In Belgium I saw petrol mopeds on bike lanes as well
And they are required to, depending on their motor size, following the same rules. So basically a fast e-bike (spedelec) and petrol mopeds are counted as the same type of vehicle.
That was a big culture shock for me, seeing motor vehicles share the same lane with bicycles… I guess nowadays with ebikes and escooters it shouldn’t be as surprising.
i’ve never understood the dislike for mopeds on bike paths (let’s not talk about lanes, bike lanes should not exist), it’s only a problem if they go too fast, which bikes can and will do as well.
Sure but you must see that speeding is far easier for a motorized vehicle than for a bicycle.
They also weigh as much as their rider sometimes. Easily 300+ lbs with a full grown man on them.
Please show me an ebike that weighs 150 lbs…
Easier to show you a full grown man who weighs 300+ pounds all by himself …
I weigh 225 and an Aventon that fits me is 75. 300.
Great example for a bike that “weighs as much as the rider” genius.
It was two separate examples. Kids ride these things and weigh less than the bike. But also the combo can exceed 300 lb.
Kids don’t ride e-bikes that are basically mopeds or seriously injure others.
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