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      • @[email protected]
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        102 years ago

        Watching a basic human need go unrealistically out of reach for average hard working people should radicalize just about anyone.

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          2 years ago

          A mansion in Beverly Hills is now a basic human need? This isn’t exactly affordable housing…

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            52 years ago

            The fact that we have Beverly Hills mansions when there isn’t enough affordable housing, obviously.

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              22 years ago

              The mansion isn’t taking the place of affordable housing. It’s taking the place of an art collection, a yacht, or some other status symbol that rich celebrities might want. The price of mansions doesn’t affect anyone except those rich celebrities, and they want mansions to be expensive because that makes them better status symbols.

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                32 years ago

                Mathematically, there is a finite limited number of resources on the planet.

                Why are resources going into social status symbol when not everyone has their basic human needs met?

                Why is it a higher priority that a rich person have a mansion to show off how rich they are, then have many other people get a roof over their head at night?

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                  22 years ago

                  You have a point, but status symbols are positional goods so often their high cost doesn’t correspond to a large use of resources. If one rich guy buys a painting from another rich guy, ten million dollars changes hands but that’s it; ten million dollars worth of stuff isn’t being used up.

                  This isn’t always the case - I presume an expensive yacht really does take a lot of resources to build. And this mansion took resources to build too. Still, the most valuable thing about the mansion is its location - the same mansion but not in Beverly Hills might be worth ten times less. I think it’s more like the painting than like the yacht.

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                    22 years ago

                    If the value is all about location, then by your logic, for each homeless person we can simply build a Beverly Hills style mansion out in the Midwest, and now it’s affordable housing.

                    You know, because the value is not in the mansion, it’s just in the Beverly Hills location.

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          82 years ago

          When I’m looking at homes to actually buy, I look for areas and homes that I, and other normal people, can afford. It’s a big country, you don’t have to live in California, nor does anyone need a massive home.

          I’ll look at the crazy stuff, but just for fun. I’m not shopping and getting upset about it.

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            62 years ago

            Well I mean some people have to live in California, New York, Ontario and other obscene high COL areas. There are also a lot of jobs that really ONLY exist in Los Angeles in any meaningful way. Doesn’t have to be 18m but go ahead and try to find a house in one of those regions within your budget and imagine having no alternative.

            Plus they are nice places to live with more progressive state laws and protections some people don’t feel safe leaving. I know what you’re trying to say and I understand. Just want to point out that people are able to look at RIDICULOUS real estate to laugh at or daydream or cure curiosity, and then get frustrated because honestly all their options feel just as ridiculous and unachievable.

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              32 years ago

              Are those jobs really worth it if every dime you make goes toward the inflated costs of living there?

              Some people might feel they need to live in a certain place, but that doesn’t mean you need to be one of them. With 50 options in the US, and several more if you’re including Canada with Ontario, I think people have more options than they think. Also, go down to the city level. All of Ontario isn’t Toronto.

              If someone isn’t working a job that enables them to pay those inflated prices, I don’t think it’s worth being there.

              • SokathHisEyesOpen
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                32 years ago

                Right… Leave a meaningful career that you love, and go swing a hammer in Nebraska, 2500 miles from home, friends, and family, just so you can have food and shelter.

          • D1G17AL
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            102 years ago

            Its so simple for you but for those of us that actually grew up in places like California we don’t want to move 800 miles just to afford a house. We don’t want to move away from our friends and family members just to be able to afford a house in the middle of butt-fucking nowhere.

            • @[email protected]
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              42 years ago

              Someone in your family’s history made the choice to leave family to move there for what they thought would be a better life. Maybe with how things are going there, people need to start leaving California for the same reason.

              I’m not saying anyone has to leave, it’s you’re life and you can do whatever you want. I’m just saying that maybe if the option was on the table people would feel a little less stuck and helpless.