It was the smoke bombs and rocks that I consider violent, but I also think it is justified. Pacifist methods of resistance have been playing into the desires of the ruling class for a long time.
Those things that exist at every protest? You get cars on fire for championship games where their team wins… This is a hiccup in protest history Jan 6 lasted a sixth as long as had two confirmed deaths at last I checked.
You seem to think I’m making disparaging comments about the protestors. I fully support them and think they are entirely justified in using any means necessary to repel the illegal forces of government that are violating the rights of citizens.
I am only relaying what I have witnessed live through a camera lens, not casting judgment against them.
Well, when I first brought it up in this thread, I was responding to someone else and it was relevant. Now you and I seem to be locked in some sort of pointless back and forth where I keep feeling like you are interpreting my words to be the opposite of what I’m saying half the time, and then you respond with either a question or another misinterpretation.
We may be stuck here until the end of the universe at this rate.
My position hasn’t really changed, conflating property crime with violence is a time honored authoritarian talking point to the extent that you can find newspapers of the foundational protests that created this country that say essentially “why can’t these protestors protest correctly?” “I was with them until the property crime!”
I was not only talking about property crime, I was talking about throwing smoke bombs and rocks at the police.
Which, once again, I think is an entirely justified thing to do. My position hasn’t changed either, I suppose. I saw violent stuff, I think the violence is justified.
It was the smoke bombs and rocks that I consider violent, but I also think it is justified. Pacifist methods of resistance have been playing into the desires of the ruling class for a long time.
Those things that exist at every protest? You get cars on fire for championship games where their team wins… This is a hiccup in protest history Jan 6 lasted a sixth as long as had two confirmed deaths at last I checked.
You seem to think I’m making disparaging comments about the protestors. I fully support them and think they are entirely justified in using any means necessary to repel the illegal forces of government that are violating the rights of citizens.
I am only relaying what I have witnessed live through a camera lens, not casting judgment against them.
I don’t think your intent matters just the end result which is enabling authoritarians.
The end result is just me repeating things that are still available to see on YouTube. I’m not breaking any news here.
So why are you repeating it then?
Well, when I first brought it up in this thread, I was responding to someone else and it was relevant. Now you and I seem to be locked in some sort of pointless back and forth where I keep feeling like you are interpreting my words to be the opposite of what I’m saying half the time, and then you respond with either a question or another misinterpretation.
We may be stuck here until the end of the universe at this rate.
Maybe you are?
My position hasn’t really changed, conflating property crime with violence is a time honored authoritarian talking point to the extent that you can find newspapers of the foundational protests that created this country that say essentially “why can’t these protestors protest correctly?” “I was with them until the property crime!”
I was not only talking about property crime, I was talking about throwing smoke bombs and rocks at the police.
Which, once again, I think is an entirely justified thing to do. My position hasn’t changed either, I suppose. I saw violent stuff, I think the violence is justified.