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A man who was believed to be part of a peacekeeping team for the “No Kings” protest in Salt Lake City shot at a person who was brandishing a rifle at demonstrators, striking both the rifleman and a bystander who later died at the hospital, authorities said Sunday.
Police took the alleged rifleman, Arturo Gamboa, 24, into custody Saturday evening on a murder charge, Salt Lake City Police Chief Brian Redd said at a Sunday news conference. The bystander was Arthur Folasa Ah Loo, 39, a fashion designer from Samoa.
Detectives don’t yet know why Gamboa pulled out a rifle or ran from the peacekeepers, but they accused him of creating the dangerous situation that led to Ah Loo’s death. The Associated Press did not immediately find an attorney listed for Gamboa or contact information for his family in public records.
Your country is whack
Thanks, we know that. Got anything helpful to share with the class?
… maybe whack it (intentionally) a bit more until it resets?
(It’s not sarcasm; protest & topple the bourgeoisie that keeps you down.)
If whacking it could fix the country, I’d have done so singlehandedly (sometimes two for variety) back in the 2000s.
Yeah, we’re working on it. Things are just getting heated up now. It takes a lot of critical mass to do what needs to be done. That takes time, unfortunately.
I’m sorry, let’s all be quiet about the murders happening at peaceful protests; the man who is attempting to install himself as god-king of the western world; the knee that this god-king is bending to Russia; and all the human rights violations occurring daily across the country so that you can keep living in your whack country in peace.
A person doesn’t need to have an answer to a systemic clusterfuck in order to call it out, and calling it out reminds us that none of this is normal. If we stop calling the US whack, then people start accepting the whack-ness as the new normal.
Nobody is being quiet about it, though. People are on the ground doing real things to try to change this. Like, ALL kinds of people. It takes time, and saying things like “your country is whack” isn’t helpful in and of itself. Saying “looking at this thing happening in your whack country right now” (like this post) is helpful. I didn’t ask anybody to solve our problems.
Your hearts are in the right place!
SOME of our hearts are in the right place
Lmao cope and seethe some more, Americunt. Maybe choke on some burgers while at your local school shooting while you’re at it.
Your country fucking sucks. Deal with it lmao. It’s not anyone else’s problem but your own. So keep coping.
Yeah, again we know our country sucks. What else do you have? Because if you seriously think that “It’s not anyone else’s problem” then, have I got news for you
Certainly isn’t my problem. The American ego that has been flaunting sole victory over the axis in world war two, discrediting valid economic models such as democratic socialism, placing military bases throughout the world… You guys have been so immensely egocentric and egomaniac that this is incredibly cathartic to see.
Can’t wait for your whole fucking cardboard empire to crumble and rot like it fucking deserves. You’re no better than anyone else. In fact you are way way worse. Welcome to your personal “shithole”.
Okay, you seem to believe that every American is somehow perfectly reflected by its government, which is reductive but I get it, you’re upset.
But if you live on planet Earth, whether or not it suits you, it absolutely IS your problem. My government is an extractive, imperialist bully. My government’s military is single largest institutional consumer of fossil fuels and biggest single institutional emitter of greenhouse gases. My government has no qualms about making it your problem.
Pretending it’s not your problem is like pretending the neighbor’s house on fire isn’t your problem. You can get away with that for a while, but eventually you’ll burn too.
“lol. I’m so detached and yet bemused. Lmao. Lmao look how cool I am lmao lmao”
Boy if you don’t get off the computer
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Wow.
And we hope you change for the better!
Me too!
Do something about it 😏
This article is literally about someone being shot at
& killedbefore they could attack a big group of people who are “doing something about it.”The person who was killed was not the potential attacker.
My bad. I even read the article twice and still my brain got muddled. I’ve corrected my comment.
Update on this, the guy being shot at was a punk activist who had open carried at other protests. He probably wasn’t an active threat.
https://www.fox13now.com/news/local-news/northern-utah/murder-suspect-described-as-a-punk-rocker-who-often-open-carries-a-firearm-at-protests
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Statistically, that’s not necessarily true….
Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.
We are. It’s going to take some time, and it will probably get a lot worse before it gets better, but we are.
Why doesnt your country do something about it! Because honestly please?
We are doing something about it, but these things take time, and we are at the very beginning of the endgame. We can’t just say, “End this,” and it’s done. It happens in steps, and we’ve just started this journey.
One of the first steps is getting everyone on the same page, and that’s what’s happening now. The massive, growing protests are proof that this step is working.
Another step is getting warm, comfortable, well-fed Americans to understand that their comfort will soon be coming to an end of they don’t do something about it. Even if they do something, it’s a good bet that there will be a few years of ferocious unrest before things settle back down. People aren’t ready for that yet, but if the MAGA Nazis keep it up, they will eventually provoke people into fighting back.
There are political Red Lines they would be advised not to cross, such as suspending elections. That would cause an enormous resistance, probably violent. No reason to be polite to those who have stolen our country.
Then there are personal Red Lines, which are different for each person. Right now, I wouldn’t get violent because my family needs me to keep a roof over their heads. I can’t get thrown in prison or killed. But I have family members that are members of vulnerable groups that the MAGA Nazis have declared to be enemies. If anything were to happen to family members, especially my son, I would have nothing left to lose, and would become VERY dangerous.
Bottom line: I no longer have any fantasies about dying at an old age. I have come to terms with the idea that my life may have a twist ending I wasn’t expecting. If the time comes that I have to fight back, I will do it, but I’m still hoping to avoid it, and make the MAGA Nazis pay for their treason and crimes through legal means.
That’s what the protests are the beginning of, the US population has not had a very successful popular progressive movement since the 60s. We’re rusty and the younger generation are inexperienced at this but we’re gathering momentum.
WE KNOW
Not the whole US. Here in Lemmy you get to know a lot of very reasonable people and the No Kings protests showed they are real people too. Yes, the USA state is too damn tangled with some of their founding fathers ideas, which are obsolete, their hegemonist mindset and a stale democratic system, but reading and listening to this people has been refreshing lately. I’m really proud of these people finally getting out, taking to the streets. Just hoping they will be prepared for a long and hard fight.