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In a survey in June by the Forsa Institute, only 17 percent of Germans said they would defend their country if attacked.

    • @[email protected]
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      811 days ago

      Defending ourselves and our allies may sadly be a necessity in the not too distant future. Thank Putin.

      • OfCourseNot
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        811 days ago

        Defending myself and going to war sound like complete opposites to me.

        • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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          711 days ago

          An organized, disciplined military is more effective at defending against an organized, disciplined military.

          Something along the Swedish or Finnish model creates an effective home defense with limited capability for offensive action.

          • OfCourseNot
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            511 days ago

            An organized, disciplined military is more effective at defending against an organized, disciplined military.

            That’s true. The thing is: defending what? The country? The government? The king? Going to war is trading my (relative) safety for theirs, and I’ve never been too fond of them really.

            • Boomer Humor Doomergod
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              511 days ago

              I totally get that. I don’t like them either.

              If you ask most soldiers what they were fighting for they wouldn’t say those things. They’d say they were fighting for the guy next to them.

              I’d imagine if the Russians started rolling tanks down your streets it would hit different.

        • @[email protected]
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          311 days ago

          You are right, your indivudual chances of survival increase by not enlisting as a soldier. At the same time, our collective chances of survival (that includes your parents, children, etc) decrease when young people walk away from the fight.

      • FerretyFever0
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        211 days ago

        Maybe I’m just a naive dumbass, but I happen to hold the belief that the world can get better.