I’m fairly new and don’t 100% understand it yet, but instances are run on servers that require money. Are we heading towards seeing ads or subscriptions to raise funds instead of relying on donations to cover overhead?

Especially with the influx of new users. Hardware upgrades are needed.

  • @[email protected]
    1•1 year ago

    Don’t even mention how risky it is having various people running the servers themselves.

    Security? Backups? Due diligence? Ability to pay? Awol?

    All different person to person.

    Idk a good solution, but the fediverse has big problems to solve. One of which is that instances are single servers, there is no distributed compute model, which means they crumple under load and can only scale so far. Not to mention the unsustainable costs that start coming with it…

    If Lemmy in general grows to the user base of reddit, infrastructure costs(if it was optimized via scale) would be in the tens of millions/year. Given that it’s a hogepoge of mixed providers using expensive AF hosting probably hundreds of millions.

    • 🐱TheCat
      5•1 year ago

      I don’t think this comment is correct.

      ‘The fediverse’ is several pieces of open source software that interface with each other, and they can be hosted on distributed computing / cloud services as much as any other service. Its up to the instance runner.

      Lots of other problems with your comment, such as assuming enterprises are more efficient than motivated individuals.

      • @[email protected]
        0•1 year ago

        Instead of having a technical and factual discussion about it, let’s instead attack people!

        No one here needs your flavor of toxicity…

        If you can’t attack the argument or idea, attacking the person to rub your ego is a pretty toxic and nonproductive thing to do.

        It’s your choice to be offended and to respond aggressively instead of treating it as a discussion on how we can improve the platform, what deficiencies are concerning, and how those will affect the users and instance owners.

          • @[email protected]
            0•1 year ago

            M8, I’m not here to have slap fights with people like you.

            You clearly are talking in bad faith, you claim I’m making inflammatory despite you failing, entirely, twice now, to attack my argument and not me.

            And after pushing you to not be an ass, here you are again, being an ass. How about you try and engage on the topic, instead of stooping to interpersonal politics?

            I have little idea, yeah, that’s why I’m actually talking about it to kick off some conversation that either shows me why/how I’m wrong or otherwise increases my understanding. You have done neither, you have no leg to stand on to complain there as you have done nothing about it.

            I’m a professional in this space, and am speaking from my experience in the industry and with scaling applications. I have a basis of understanding to pull from, and am enjoying actual discussion with others and have found a few technical people to dive deeper with, unlike you. And have learned a lot from others who have expanded on my points in other threads, and corrected me where I’m wrong. Again, you have done none of this.

            Perhaps you are unfamiliar with technical conversation and common discourse/argument? Because toxicity is not how you carry one on.

            I look forward to you failing to understand or absorb any of this, and continue with your personal attacks instead of contributing to actual discussion!