At a time when Americans increasingly want pricey SUVs and trucks rather than small cars, the Mirage remains the lone new vehicle whose average sale price is under 20 grand — a figure that once marked a kind of unofficial threshold of affordability. With prices — new and used — having soared since the pandemic, $20,000 is no longer much of a starting point for a new car.

This current version of the Mirage, which reached U.S. dealerships a decade ago, sold for an average of $19,205 last month, according to data from Cox Automotive. (Though a few other new models have starting prices under $20,000, their actual purchase prices, with options and shipping, exceed that figure.)

  • Illecors
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    42 years ago

    But minimum wage -> minimum effort, right? I have no problem with no effort => no reward.

    • @[email protected]
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      102 years ago

      I’m making way more money as an EE than when I was a teen making minimum wage at a factory. That shit is grueling and far from no effort

      • Illecors
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        62 years ago

        Clearly you’ve put effort into becoming an EE. Clearly it has paid back. I don’t see why you’re arguing.

        • @[email protected]
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          102 years ago

          I don’t see why I wouldn’t want my fellow man who is struggling in the system to do better just because I went into huge debt to be an EE

          • Illecors
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            32 years ago

            Nobody wants your fellow man struggling in the system whether you went into debt or not. Some fellow men, however, are blood sucking assholes living off others’ effort.

    • @[email protected]
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      102 years ago

      Not caring about the well-being of others is called Antisocial Personality Disorder i’m afraid

        • @[email protected]
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          92 years ago

          It’s an ad hominem, not a strawman. Maybe if you actually studied philosophy instead of just parroting people who just want your attention for monetary gain, you’d understand why the minimum wage being dangerously low is bad for everyone.

          • Illecors
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            22 years ago

            You’re obviously of great education, yet fail to see my point completely. What gives.

            • @[email protected]
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              42 years ago

              You’re not doing a good job explaining yourself. It currently reads like you’re being a troll who thinks that people should starve.

              If I squint, I can maybe see how you’re actually trying to aim yourself at the owning class, but your points aren’t coherent enough for that to make sense.

              Plus, I’m neurodivergent, I can barely parse regular speech half the time, I’m not going to spend much more effort than that on someone who appears to be retaliating rather than explaining their position.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      I’ve worked minimum wage jobs and jobs that pay far more, and I definitely wasn’t working harder at the high paying ones