Aight so it looks like this whole workshop thing is going ahead but now I have no idea what to quote. All sorts of insecurities popping up. It’s a ~3 hr in person workshop with 50km return travel (30-40 mins each way) for about 3-4 professionals. It will be mostly hands on demonstration and troubleshooting, not much prep or materials required. I might need to look into a couple of the app’s functions I haven’t explored much but that would benefit my job as well so I wouldn’t count that time spent.
I’m thinking I should be compensated at least the equivalent of what I get paid for a whole day of regular work (inc. super), since I can’t do my regular job the entire day, and maybe a 25% loading. That’s 600 rounded up, no GST. Hopefully that seems fair?? I don’t feel like enough of a grown up to ask for this, but fuckit. I can try
E: ugh I forgot I’d need to pay 32% personal income tax on that. Or 15% if I chuck it in super… 600 is starting to sound very justifiable
Woof, I did originally think 600 would be a minimum but an hourly rate of 133 (or real billable rate of 250/hr) is probably on par with what many people running workshops for companies do. I will definitely have a think.
Don’t forget you have to prep the workshop (it will take longer then you think, just to learn the app yourself and make notes on how to walk people through and good demos). and maybe do a followuo (email a summary or something). If it takes 6 hours to prep a 3 hour workshop + travel then you are ~12 hours time. 90-100 bucks an hour is cheap for most trainers . I would go for 1000 as a baseline
Of course this totally depends on the value to the customer? Non profit or micro biz or then yep 600 is fine. Is it for giant mining company with bucks to spare - they won’t blink at 3000.
Also if this is the sort of thing people do training for have a scout online and see what others charge for similar training
Fair points, I luckily don’t need to learn that much about the app myself as I use it a lot at my current workplace (I was approached precisely because I have experience with it). I was intending on keeping it fairly loose, just a few key points on a whiteboard and then demonstration and troubleshooting/answering questions. I could tie it in with another question they have which I said I didn’t know how to resolve with the current app but I could look into it and charge them for it…
…okay so uh full disclosure it’s actually my former workplace (minus very difficult people who are no longer there) that wants to engage me. Yes, my current bosses are amazingly ok with this idea lol. I think my ex colleagues asked me because they know I’m 100% familiar with their existing setup (I did most of it) and therefore how best to translate that to this app. I won’t actually create the setup for them, apparently they’re most of the way through it, but help them figure it out themselves.
They’re now part of a rather big org and gotten the green light from higher up, so they could afford a chunk, but I also don’t want to work that hard or set up high expectations! That said, everything is inflated these days. I shall have a look at what those pros are charging for similar services and adjust accordingly, great tip.
Aight so it looks like this whole workshop thing is going ahead but now I have no idea what to quote. All sorts of insecurities popping up. It’s a ~3 hr in person workshop with 50km return travel (30-40 mins each way) for about 3-4 professionals. It will be mostly hands on demonstration and troubleshooting, not much prep or materials required. I might need to look into a couple of the app’s functions I haven’t explored much but that would benefit my job as well so I wouldn’t count that time spent.
I’m thinking I should be compensated at least the equivalent of what I get paid for a whole day of regular work (inc. super), since I can’t do my regular job the entire day, and maybe a 25% loading. That’s 600 rounded up, no GST. Hopefully that seems fair?? I don’t feel like enough of a grown up to ask for this, but fuckit. I can try
E: ugh I forgot I’d need to pay 32% personal income tax on that. Or 15% if I chuck it in super… 600 is starting to sound very justifiable
If you’re invoicing a corporation I’d go for a cool $1000.
Woof, I did originally think 600 would be a minimum but an hourly rate of 133 (or real billable rate of 250/hr) is probably on par with what many people running workshops for companies do. I will definitely have a think.
Don’t forget you have to prep the workshop (it will take longer then you think, just to learn the app yourself and make notes on how to walk people through and good demos). and maybe do a followuo (email a summary or something). If it takes 6 hours to prep a 3 hour workshop + travel then you are ~12 hours time. 90-100 bucks an hour is cheap for most trainers . I would go for 1000 as a baseline
Of course this totally depends on the value to the customer? Non profit or micro biz or then yep 600 is fine. Is it for giant mining company with bucks to spare - they won’t blink at 3000.
Also if this is the sort of thing people do training for have a scout online and see what others charge for similar training
Also noone will laugh at you for 600. If that’s what your gut says it’s ok
Fair points, I luckily don’t need to learn that much about the app myself as I use it a lot at my current workplace (I was approached precisely because I have experience with it). I was intending on keeping it fairly loose, just a few key points on a whiteboard and then demonstration and troubleshooting/answering questions. I could tie it in with another question they have which I said I didn’t know how to resolve with the current app but I could look into it and charge them for it…
…okay so uh full disclosure it’s actually my former workplace (minus very difficult people who are no longer there) that wants to engage me. Yes, my current bosses are amazingly ok with this idea lol. I think my ex colleagues asked me because they know I’m 100% familiar with their existing setup (I did most of it) and therefore how best to translate that to this app. I won’t actually create the setup for them, apparently they’re most of the way through it, but help them figure it out themselves.
They’re now part of a rather big org and gotten the green light from higher up, so they could afford a chunk, but I also don’t want to work that hard or set up high expectations! That said, everything is inflated these days. I shall have a look at what those pros are charging for similar services and adjust accordingly, great tip.